Trump basers...interpret please !!!

[blitzburghv5]

Kim Jong Haircut has agreed to talks. Something other Presidents weren't able to get him to do. Although personally I still think that's the wrong way to handle it. No one really cares about his little pissant third-world dictatorship except that he has nukes and only does what he does for attention. I'd ignore him. Trump successfully put the squeeze on China to put the squeeze on Haircut.


China agreed yesterday to open their markets more. Thing is, 88% of what they make comes here so they need us more than we need them. The Left conveniently ignores the damage that their unfair trade practices and intellectual property theft does to U.S. businesses.

Kim Jung wasn't talkin with ANYONE until he got the ability to inflict mass casualties via nuclear means....he has that ability now and that's the reason hes willing to sit down and talk...that has little to do with Trump. China holds more sway with Kim Jung than Trump. And Trump is different than Kim (constant lust for attention) in what fashion ? Kim kept launching rockets even after Trump made threats....bomb tech is well in hand and now he wants to talk. Look for his demands and you will realize the position hes in.

I can agree the China trade deficit is totally imbalanced...the fact that there is this threat of a trade war which had had a drastic effect on the stock market is bad technique. There was a smart way that would protect folks investments and not fluctuate markets. I wont believe **** until ***** on paper from either side.

 

[Steelworth]

As much as Trump can make me just cringe at times, I have to laugh at the people who scream and shout about him being infantile, and then call him names and curse. Talk about hypocrisy at it's finest.

"But but but, he makes us like that! If we would've just got what we wanted, we wouldn't be acting like infantile jackasses!"

That's not how the world works, snowflakes.

 

[BLITZ]

**** Donald Trump. ....hes a compilation of fuckboyism and infantilism ....

And your president. Hope he is an extremely successful president.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

You believe left leaners are pro open borders. When in fact they are not. You believe left leaners are anti-2nd amendment...they are not.

I believe what I see. You're not paying attention to you own side then.

YOu are fed bullshit from the Hannitys, the Levins, etc and you willfully digest that bullshit because you've invested your political roots. Not shocking the fruits that tree bears, is it ? You believe the left hates America not because you have any such proof nor do you have open engaging dialogue with anyone from the left, but because your choice of informants dictate what you believe.

Oldest Lib trick in the book. You can't argue the issues so you attack a source you don't like. Rarely listen to Hannity and Levin isn't carried on the radio where I live. Again, you're not paying attention to your side.

The US has been giving other nations money for decades....70 years to be exact (Marshall Plan post WWII). We grant more military aid to Israel than any other country. You take issue with that ? Trump signed a 10 yr deal to continue foreign aid to Israel to the tune of $38 Billion over the next 10 years.

I know and I don't think we should.

And prove to me that Obama let ANYONE come into this country ...do the number bear out what you say ? Is there proof of a Border Patrol stand down rule ... ?

He allowed sanctuary cities, which is the exclusive provence of Democrats BTW, border patrol and enforcement was fairly minimal, and prosecution of a border patrol agent who shot a Mexican illegal who was shooting at him. All Trump wants to do is enforce existing law so why does your side go batshit crazy over it? Because you know that Trump means it and Bomma didn't.

And Obama won ONLY BECAUSE HES BLACK ? Okay...elaborate on that... and don't forget Hildebeast won more votes (3 million) than Cheeto Jesus...but of course if you buy into the bullshit theory that dead folks voted and 5 million immigrants voted then perhaps that feeds the narrative.

Lotta people wanted to vote for the First Black President. He had a thinner resume than anyone who ever ran for the office. Based on experience alone a white guy would never have been considered. He was a two-term state senator and a less than one-term U.S. Senator. Period. I like my local state senator but I don't think he's qualified to be President. BTW, I voted for a black man for President (Dr. Alan Keyes in the 2000 and 2004 primaries) long before anyone outside of Hawaii, Indonesia, Kenya, and Chicago ever heard of Barack Obama.

So get things done huh ? Okay....a go getter..what are some other attributes...or is that the only one ? Running this country like some of his businesses would be a nightmare...hes a 4 time bankruptcy filer. And, have you taken a look at the Congressional Budget Office's projection of the deficit ? Its bad...worse than originally projected...those numbers are adding....adding up to the tune of additional 2 Trillion by 2020 based on current budget projections (with the tax cuts) and we aren't even spending that money towards lifting out from a recession. God forbid we endure one under this admin that number would rocket up even more...

Bankruptcies happen when the economy tanks. I'm flirting with that myself since 8 years of Obamunism wrecked the economy and my business. Doesn't matter how good a businessman you are when there's a recession and no one has money. Why are you only concerned with deficits when a Republican is President? I didn't hear you bitching about it when Bomma added more to it than any other President. When your side does it, it's okay, I get that.

China holds more sway with Kim Jung than Trump.

Exactly. He won't listen to us. That's why Trump put the squeeze on China.

 

[Stryker]

Guys, let's not get into revisionist history. Obama spent his way out of a depression, it could have been 1929 bad and possibly lasted a decade if the banks folded. As a fiscal conservative, I'm not sure I would have done the same, and relied on market economy to allow the little fish to eat the bigger fish, but I can't fault the results. We didn't bottom out.

The intent was to hold those companies accountable, and that needs to be upheld and repaid to the american people as well.

 

[hamster]

Keep bringing up Obama....introduce some Hillary too...lets serve that ******* salad dish for a 10,000th time. Is that what you got....seriously, a rebuttal of "but Obama.....". We are talking about TRUMP. Remember the TRAIN. Oh he acted last time launching $60M worth of T Hawks into the cement. That was effective enough that Assad just had to go for another round of chemical attacks. He wants to leave Syria because Putin told him he needs to.

You ************* gloated about this man...he was "gonna be different"...not BETTER, JUST DIFFERENT. Was gonna be winning.. You were right about him..hes different alright. These joint chiefs and commanders have to be thinking this guy is really ****** nuts and his charades are making military planning a nightmare. I guess we wont be shocked if he gives away strategy and hint where the missile will come from directionally.

I cant with this dude....and yall have no credibility still lending support to this. Yall got what you wanted right....gtfoh

Yeah. I'm sorry. I went for low hanging fruit. I will do better next time.

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[Steeltime]

I understand how everyone has their own feelings and their reasons for them. I didn't agree with everything Obama either. W was just dumb, but he was a likable character, but yeah, dumb. In 2007 I was set to vote for McCain. Sort of not normal for a dem, but I liked him (still do). His downfall was when he chose Palin. I couldn't tolerate her then, I can't now. My vote went to Obama. So much like those who hated Hillary voted for trump, I'm guilty of that myself. There's never gonna be the "right" guy/woman, there's always gonna be complaints, so yep, whoever the next one is it'll be no different. My strong dislike of trump went way back far before he decided to run for president, it just increased about tenfold.

One thing I don't believe many people understand - Trump's tweets are actually from him. You know exactly what he - HE, not some speechwriter or tweetauthor - is saying.[SUP]1[/SUP]

We have grown up in a world populated with speech writers, and focus groups, and handwringing, and teddybear cuddling to the point we cannot deal with a politician who does not use such speech insulators.

Seriously, can you name 10 phrases - ten - that BARACK OBAMA and not his speechwriters prepared? I can give you about 500 from Trump himself.

And make no mistake, I don't think the endless tweets and the 3:43 a.m. tweets and the personal tweets are a good thing. I have written that Trump could do himself a huge favor by just putting down the goddamn tweet machine.

But do you understand why he uses tweets? His own words are not then processed and homogenized like so much ****** American cheese by the media. He connects directly with people, in his own words.

IN HIS OWN WORDS, not the words of a staff of 10 speech writers.

[SUP]1[/SUP] I have written on this forum at some length regarding this problem. Ask 10 average citizens, "Who wrote the Gettysburg address?" and you will likely get 10 correct answers - Lincoln. (We have drafts of the speech he prepared in his handwriting on the train on the way to the Gettysburg memorial ceremony, November, 1863.) Ask another 10, "Who wrote Kennedy's 1961 inauguration speech?" and I wager that not one gets the right answer. (Ted Sorenson, with the help of several others, including Adlai Stevenson, et al.) The palpable disassociation between the author and the speaker is, in my estimation, a serious problem. For example, Lincoln wrote every one of his speeches, addresses, etc., with minimal contribution by others. We know who Lincoln was. Hitler wrote his own loathsome speeches. We know the ****** was a maniac. Churchill wrote his own speeches, and read Hitler's speeches, and correctly concluded that Hitler was a maniac? Why? BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT THE DISGUSTING GARBAGE FROM HITLER WAS HIS CREATION, AND SHOWED WHO HE WAS.

The same for Churchill. Look, this issue is important to me, because I believe America is becoming less and less literate, and historically educated. We are therefore becoming a nation that can be hoodwinked by clever speech writers. Read Lincoln's speeches, and Churchill's. Read one of Hitler's to understand that he did NOT hide his malevolence.

And understand, please - understand - that some catch phrase or weepy plea about "the children" has NOTHING to do with the speaker today. It is simply a processed, focus-group driven pablum that a large team of speechwriters has crafted to fool you. Don't be fooled any more.

 

[Steeltime]

There it is !!!....never fails.....if you don't support nationalism to the fullest, you hate America. So conclusive huh....If you don't agree with my standards you hate America....where did this narrative birth itself ? It wasn't always like that in the USA....you could agree to disagree but now, the other side is the enemy.

Okay.

This is a problem. I agree with you. It sickens me. Look, I don't agree with Tibs and Troglydyte politically, but I can almost guarantee you that we would be friends as neighbors. Hanging out at each other's house, texting each other, etc. friends. Why? Because I know they care about America, and they know the same about me.

So this leads me to my point - do you seriously, honestly believe that the "Oh, you hate America" **** was started by Trump supporters in 2016????

Look at what Dems said about Reagan supporters in 1980 and 1984. Look at what powerful Dems have been saying about Republicans other than Trump for 40 plus years. This **** did NOT start in 2016.

So, yes, I am not a proponent of the "**** you, you hate America" mantra. Seriously, you can search my hundreds of posts for the word "hate" and see what you get.

But by the same token, I and many of my ideological brethren have been lambasted and blasted and lampooned for decades with the same accusation - "**** you, you don't love America." Really, we have.

So I feel your pain. But your pain was generated by politicians and spokespeople who labeled Republicans like Reagan, and H.W. Bush, and McCain, and Romney, and Ryan as racist, sexist, homophobe crazies interested only in genocide of the American people. Oh, and if you think I am overstating the hatred imbued by the left on Reagan, H.W., et al., let me assure you - I have seen it and read it hundreds of times.

 

[Hypocycloids]

From twitter:

"missiles will be coming...“Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’

WTF does this mean....? You guys can read him and translate what this means...

t means we are sending our best.

 

[ark steel]

Blitz. If you dont think The Big O didn't win because he is black, you haven't been paying attention. You think we mean against McCain. We mean against Hillary. He was a lousy first term senator with no experience running anything other than a protest.

No Republican was going to win in 2008 because the Dems and their cohorts had the public convinced it was W that ruined the economy. Since people cant think for themselves, the winner of the Dem primary was going to be President.

When it seemed like The Big O might actually give Hillary a contest, you dont think that drove minorities to the polls to vote for a legit minority candidate?

Then to have the luck of going up against a milquetoast Rino in 2012? What was the minority turnout in 2008/2012 vs 2016?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124813588601666995

Google minority turnout 2008.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-as-a-record-number-of-americans-cast-ballots

 

[steel dino]

rhetoric is a double edged sword...and can lead to misunderstanding and incorrect translation of the actually meaning/purpose of the remarks...

So..lets play "what if"..... and by replacing one word in President Trumps actual statement, making it something lets say......President Putin might say....

"missiles will be coming...“Get ready America, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!"

Imagine the possible response (more escalating rhetoric or actual actions) from the State department and the White House...

 

[83fan]

Don't tell anyone here:
I was given Trump's Art of the Deal back in about 92/93 and still have not read it.
I dislike the way he conducts business, and communicates, and thought his TV show sucked ***.
But, he has had a lot of positive effects on the way Washington works, the perceptions around the globe on how the US carries itself, positions itself, etc.
While he is not eloquent or even nice, I wonder why we all think that has anything to do with real leadership? ( does anyone really think that Zuckerberg, or Jobs, or Gates or Carlos Slim, or Jack Welch or Bill Clinton are really nice guys?)

Clinton didn't actually do much as president, W is well documented, and the real effects of Bomma early years was masked by the horrid 2007-9 financial schmozzle caused by a corrupt Congress. His last years were boring or corrupt depending on which color you like.

The Russians couldn't figure out Reagan, drunken Ted K went to Moscow and told the Soviets he was effing crazy and boom, communism collapsed because they spent so much money on a space/arms race that was never real. And because they ran out of other people's money.

Cope brought up the Art of War above. The two most important tenets, for me, from Sun Tzu's classic are : 1) be unfathomable and 2) the best war is the one not fought.
Reagan did both with amazing success felt in the US and globally. Successive US Presidents since have failed. While Trump seems far from done in his work, he is working to a playbook that makes sense to me. Doesn't mean I like the guy, but I like the effect he is causing. Discomfort is a good thing for the entire political and media class.

National and global leadership should not always be easily understood by the average citizen. We choose the leaders to actually lead. Sometime we don't like the direction or style. Effectiveness should be what matters.

Trump has a different style and a different direction than the last guy. I don't understand why so many people need to be angry with him each day. He is an *******. What does that have to do with being an effective leader?

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LOL, don't worry, your secret is safe with me. There's a lot to go over here, but I'm only going to touch on the bolded part. I think that's where you and I are going to differ. I don't feel the US is looked upon in a positive way right now. I have enough friends in England and family in Italy, and two coworkers, one from Finland and one from Sweden (she actually just returned there), and just from them, despite reading what other world leaders think, we are a laughing stock. Again, please remember we all have our different opinions and views, I'm not enforcing mine on anyone and while I'll listen to others to try to understand different views, the likelihood of me changing is pretty much zero. I'm vacationing in Mexico this year, I'll get back to you and let you know how that goes lol. Will be our third trip there and I can honestly say I'm more hesitant now than I've ever been before. But I'm going there for vacation and not political talk and I hope it stays that way. As far as him being an effective leader, I will gladly agree to disagree on that. I'm not seeing it. I'm probably one of the few on the left who doesn't want him impeached because personally I think pence could be worse in a lot of ways. I'm not angry at him everyday, I actually try to ignore he even exists truthfully. I don't read his tweets because it just reinforces more of how I already feel about him. I can't listen to him talk, I don't want to see his face on my TV, so he's pretty much banned in my house and that works for me. I respect your opinions and hope you can understand mine.

 

[83fan]

One thing I don't believe many people understand - Trump's tweets are actually from him. You know exactly what he - HE, not some speechwriter or tweetauthor - is saying.[SUP]1[/SUP]

We have grown up in a world populated with speech writers, and focus groups, and handwringing, and teddybear cuddling to the point we cannot deal with a politician who does not use such speech insulators.

Seriously, can you name 10 phrases - ten - that BARACK OBAMA and not his speechwriters prepared? I can give you about 500 from Trump himself.

And make no mistake, I don't think the endless tweets and the 3:43 a.m. tweets and the personal tweets are a good thing. I have written that Trump could do himself a huge favor by just putting down the goddamn tweet machine.

But do you understand why he uses tweets? His own words are not then processed and homogenized like so much ****** American cheese by the media. He connects directly with people, in his own words.

IN HIS OWN WORDS, not the words of a staff of 10 speech writers.

[SUP]1[/SUP] I have written on this forum at some length regarding this problem. Ask 10 average citizens, "Who wrote the Gettysburg address?" and you will likely get 10 correct answers - Lincoln. (We have drafts of the speech he prepared in his handwriting on the train on the way to the Gettysburg memorial ceremony, November, 1863.) Ask another 10, "Who wrote Kennedy's 1961 inauguration speech?" and I wager that not one gets the right answer. (Ted Sorenson, with the help of several others, including Adlai Stevenson, et al.) The palpable disassociation between the author and the speaker is, in my estimation, a serious problem. For example, Lincoln wrote every one of his speeches, addresses, etc., with minimal contribution by others. We know who Lincoln was. Hitler wrote his own loathsome speeches. We know the ****** was a maniac. Churchill wrote his own speeches, and read Hitler's speeches, and correctly concluded that Hitler was a maniac? Why? BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT THE DISGUSTING GARBAGE FROM HITLER WAS HIS CREATION, AND SHOWED WHO HE WAS.

The same for Churchill. Look, this issue is important to me, because I believe America is becoming less and less literate, and historically educated. We are therefore becoming a nation that can be hoodwinked by clever speech writers. Read Lincoln's speeches, and Churchill's. Read one of Hitler's to understand that he did NOT hide his malevolence.

And understand, please - understand - that some catch phrase or weepy plea about "the children" has NOTHING to do with the speaker today. It is simply a processed, focus-group driven pablum that a large team of speechwriters has crafted to fool you. Don't be fooled any more.

Hi Steeltime - did you mean to respond to me or was this meant for someone else? I only ask because I didn't mention his tweets in my post and thought maybe you were responding to someone else.

 

[Steelerfan]

One good thing is that the focus is on the U.S. and what we're going to do. Hardly any attention is being paid to our allies. Keep in mind that whatever action is taken, the U.S. won't be doing it alone. Saudi Arabia, some of its neighbors, and Israel all would like to see Russia and Iran out of Syria. Just keep the focus on the U.S. and let things happen behind the scenes.

 

[Steeltime]

Hi Steeltime - did you mean to respond to me or was this meant for someone else? I only ask because I didn't mention his tweets in my post and thought maybe you were responding to someone else.

No, I was directing the comment in part to you. You wrote that you liked McCain, disliked Palin, etc. and I was stating that it is difficult nowadays to figure out exactly what political figures believe, for the reasons I discussed.

 

[83fan]

No, I was directing the comment in part to you. You wrote that you liked McCain, disliked Palin, etc. and I was stating that it is difficult nowadays to figure out exactly what political figures believe, for the reasons I discussed.

Ah, ok, I understand. Yes, unfortunately personally I know what he's saying. I just don't believe a word out of his mouth and therefore ignore his tweets. They're either lies, insults, bullying or infantile name calling, and yes it would benefit him greatly to put down the phone. That's the him I know, that's the him I've always known, that's the him I'll never support. While I don't believe every politician in general, and likely never will, I accept they read written speeches and in some cases (like in W's) that's for the better. I mean if they're lying anyway, might as well sound good doing it. Personally you couldn't pay me enough to write a speech for a politician let alone BE a politician and really don't understand why anyone would want that kind of stress or aggravation in their lives.

 

[IndySteel]

. I don't feel the US is looked upon in a positive way right now. we are a laughing stock.

China, North Korea, Mexico and Syria are not laughing. And whenever Trump visits a country he get's a king's welcome and far more respect than namby pamby Kenyan limpwrist apologist got.

 

[83fan]

China, North Korea, Mexico and Syria are not laughing. And whenever Trump visits a country he get's a king's welcome and far more respect than namby pamby Kenyan limpwrist apologist got.

I'm just going by what I'm told by people who live or have family, such as myself, in those areas I named. Not speaking for every one or every country. I'm fine if China and NKO aren't laughing at us, they shouldn't be. They never should have been. I also don't trust those 2 countries and I'll wait to see how true to their words they are. I have a personal affection for Mexico and every time we've gone there we've been treated wonderfully. I'm hoping for the same this trip.

 

[DBS1970]

Just like last year at this time.

Assad has the war all but won and suddenly launch is a chemical attack which galvanizes world opinion against him. It's an ISIS rope-a-dope that nobody in power seems to understand.

 

[ark steel]

If you believe Trump is racist, why would he support/follow policies that have resulted in the lowest African American unemployment numbers in decades (ever? I can't remember the span)?

Why would he nominate an African American woman to be a general? To save face? Does anything about The Donald indicate he gives a **** what people think of him?

 

[Steeltime]

Ah, ok, I understand. Yes, unfortunately personally I know what he's saying. I just don't believe a word out of his mouth and therefore ignore his tweets. They're either lies, insults, bullying or infantile name calling, and yes it would benefit him greatly to put down the phone. That's the him I know, that's the him I've always known, that's the him I'll never support. While I don't believe every politician in general, and likely never will, I accept they read written speeches and in some cases (like in W's) that's for the better. I mean if they're lying anyway, might as well sound good doing it. Personally you couldn't pay me enough to write a speech for a politician let alone BE a politician and really don't understand why anyone would want that kind of stress or aggravation in their lives.

America used to have politicians like Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Reagan.

Now we have know-nothing shiteating liars like Obama, Hillary, and (yes, we have to be honest here) Trump. Why? Because of the reasons I have written about endlessly here. America is a non-literate country. Our education system is a ******* joke. Americans have zero - ZERO - knowledge of history. Because of that, America can be deceived by speechwriters.

And this **** will not improve over the next 15 years. The "Idiocracy theory" is running its course. Americans get dumber, a small legion of speechwriters run a few control groups, and we elect the next imbecile.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat, but without ever changing the filthy water. Look, don't take what I say as fact. Investigate for yourselves. Approach a group of citizens and ask, "What amendment allows 18 year olds to vote? What amendment states that the Vice-President takes office in the event the President dies in office? What article of the Constitution governs the executive branch? Legislative? Judicial? What famous Supreme Court case held that the U.S. Supreme Court was the final arbiter of legislative or executive branch actions? What famous Supreme Court case held that slaves were not United States citizens? When did the United States enter World War I? Who was the President at the time? Who was the President when the United States entered World War II? Who was the United States President at the end of World War II? How many Presidents have been impeached? Can you name them? Who was the President of the Confederate States? Who was the general in charge of the army of Northern Virginia? Who was the Union commander at the battle of Gettysburg?"

Basic, very fundamental stuff I knew in 10th grade. I would wager that a substantial percentage of our elected officials could not get a passing grade (70% plus) on this rudimentary exam.

 

[83fan]

America used to have politicians like Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Reagan.

Now we have know-nothing shiteating liars like Obama, Hillary, and (yes, we have to be honest here) Trump. Why? Because of the reasons I have written about endlessly here. America is a non-literate country. Our education system is a ******* joke. Americans have zero - ZERO - knowledge of history. Because of that, America can be deceived by speechwriters.

And this **** will not improve over the next 15 years. The "Idiocracy theory" is running its course. Americans get dumber, a small legion of speechwriters run a few control groups, and we elect the next imbecile.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat, but without ever changing the filthy water. Look, don't take what I say as fact. Investigate for yourselves. Approach a group of citizens and ask, "What amendment allows 18 year olds to vote? What amendment states that the Vice-President takes office in the event the President dies in office? What article of the Constitution governs the executive branch? Legislative? Judicial? What famous Supreme Court case held that the U.S. Supreme Court was the final arbiter of legislative or executive branch actions? What famous Supreme Court case held that slaves were not United States citizens? When did the United States enter World War I? Who was the President at the time? Who was the President when the United States entered World War II? Who was the United States President at the end of World War II? How many Presidents have been impeached? Can you name them? Who was the President of the Confederate States? Who was the general in charge of the army of Northern Virginia? Who was the Union commander at the battle of Gettysburg?"

Basic, very fundamental stuff I knew in 10th grade. I would wager that a substantial percentage of our elected officials could not get a passing grade (70% plus) on this rudimentary exam.

Can't argue with you here at all. You definitely know your history, impressive. Being honest here, but at 18 I registered as a democrat based on what I perceived to best describe me. My first ever vote went to Mondell (lol, what, one of 10 maybe), but I didn't know anything about Reagan either, so there it was. Now at 52, I have a better grasp on what I look for in a candidate and that fits best my beliefs. I'm still very much a democrat, that's who I am, but not a liberal...Bernie was way too liberal for me. And still being honest, I still like a well written speech, I doubt that'll change. Probably means I'm easily suckered, but I've accepted that. I'm assuming you know all the answers to your questions WITHOUT the use of google and you could probably put a lot of historians to shame. I would need to look most of that up because in 10th grade, I just wanted to know what I needed to know to pass a test. Who cared, right? I care now and sometimes it just takes us a little too long to start that process.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Can't argue with you here at all. You definitely know your history, impressive. Being honest here, but at 18 I registered as a democrat based on what I perceived to best describe me. My first ever vote went to Mondell (lol, what, one of 10 maybe), but I didn't know anything about Reagan either, so there it was. Now at 52, I have a better grasp on what I look for in a candidate and that fits best my beliefs. I'm still very much a democrat, that's who I am, but not a liberal...Bernie was way too liberal for me. And still being honest, I still like a well written speech, I doubt that'll change. Probably means I'm easily suckered, but I've accepted that. I'm assuming you know all the answers to your questions WITHOUT the use of google and you could probably put a lot of historians to shame. I would need to look most of that up because in 10th grade, I just wanted to know what I needed to know to pass a test. Who cared, right? I care now and sometimes it just takes us a little too long to start that process.

So in other words you're like Trog in that your politics are all over the map but Republicans are bad and you'll never vote for one. Right, got it.

 

[blitzburghv5]

China, North Korea, Mexico and Syria are not laughing. And whenever Trump visits a country he get's a king's welcome and far more respect than namby pamby Kenyan limpwrist apologist got.

Has he visited the UK ? They wanted him banned.....

But lets see this kings welcome compared to other presidents of the past. I think you exaggerate...GREATLY...BIGLY. TREMENDOUSLY...Like someone else we know who exaggerates a lotta ****

 

[83fan]

So in other words you're like Trog in that your politics are all over the map but Republicans are bad and you'll never vote for one. Right, got it.

Yeah, not quite sure where you came up with that, but ok whatever. Apparently you didn't read where I said I was ready to vote McCain but Palin ruined that for me. I voted Obama and would do it again. I voted Hillary and would do it again. And what does it matter how I vote or what I believe? Those are my rights, well so far at least...