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And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

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Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone defends the news media these days. What you see out of CNN, MSNBC and the alphabet networks probably isn't all that different from state run media in North Korea or Russia. Huge propaganda apparatus for the left in this country. Fox is the same way for the right, but they are a small fish in a big pond.

Fox, Drudge report and a few other Conservative outlets are a direct result of the fact that 99% of news outlets in America are Liberal propaganda machines. There is always a resistance that pops up when only one side is represented for too long.
 
You know who hates this country? Tim Steelersfan and Trump supporters hate this country. Anyone who supports what this president stands for, how he's systematically destroying the rule of law and democratic institutions. Anyone who supports the Trump regime separating 2,000 children from their families at the border. Who supports Trump alienating and insulting our long-time allies and bedding down with Putin and murderous dictators like Kim Jong-un. Anyone who supports attacks against the free press and a President who constantly lies, cheats and deceives.

And, just like Trump, Tim does nothing but lash out against truth and facts and anyone who dares criticize his beloved King. And he does it with lies and deceits, just like his personal savior and hero.

Yes, sadly Tim is just one example here on the board of the ultimate, hypocritical Trump supporter who hates everything about America.

But its okay Tim, nobody buys your bullshit. Just like Trump, you're on a train careening off the tracks. Keep on being you, wouldn't want it any other way.

I refer you back to post #3161.

And I can stand on solid ground and say that I love this country and don't think it needs to be overhauled. She needs work here and there. Not the EU, Socialist/Communist overhaul you and your AltLeft brethren cause violence over. It is you and your ilk that want open borders and to move to a Globalist word, and have the USA be a nation without borders, mass Muslim immigration, mass illegal immigration, boys in girls bathrooms, taxation that cripples businesses and individuals, abortions for all, etc, et al, ad nausea.

I'm proud of the America we have. You want an American EU. Which really isn't American.
 
If we had a free press in America you may be right. We do not. We have a press that is the mouthpiece and propaganda machine for one political party. **** all of them and I hope he continues publicly humiliating them at every opportunity. They deserve every bit of it.

I'd never let CNN back into the Whitehouse. They're complete gutter trash.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone defends the news media these days. What you see out of CNN, MSNBC and the alphabet networks probably isn't all that different from state run media in North Korea or Russia. Huge propaganda apparatus for the left in this country. Fox is the same way for the right, but they are a small fish in a big pond.

This is one of the huge benefits of Trump's election. He has exposed the mainstream Pravda media for what it is.....a mouthpiece for the Democratic party and liberal causes. When media figures comment how Trump is attacking this sacred institution, I just have to laugh at their hypocrisy and dishonesty. When he attacks the FBI, he is criticized, even though there is ample evidence of corruption and criminality at the top of the organization. If you still believe that the MSM is fair and balanced, just watch this..........

 
hahahahahaha


Trump lawyer calls for inquiry on Mueller's Russia probe


Washington (AFP) - Donald Trump's personal lawyer on Sunday called for an investigation into special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, claiming it was tainted from the outset under former FBI director James Comey.

"We want the Mueller probe to be investigated the way the Trump administration has been investigated," Rudy Giuliani said on CNN's "State of the Union."

"This is a case where it's crying out for someone to investigate the investigators," he later told CBS.

Giuliani's comments were the latest in a barrage of attacks on the probe by the president and his lawyers as Mueller appears to be nearing a conclusion to his investigation into possible collusion between Trump's campaign and Moscow.

"WITCH HUNT! There was no Russian Collusion. Oh, I see, there was no Russian Collusion, so now they look for obstruction on the no Russian Collusion. The phony Russian Collusion was a made up Hoax," Trump tweeted on Sunday.

"Too bad they didn't look at Crooked Hillary like this. Double Standard!" he added, referring to his 2016 Democratic presidential rival Hillary Clinton.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-law...160552705.html
 
It's all blowing up in their faces


Stormy Daniels Sues Her Former Attorney As Her Story Falls Apart


Daniels’ case, championed by CNN and the mainstream media, is falling apart due to Daniels’ shifting stories, and a steady stream of bombshell revelations about the behavior of her attorney Michael Avenatti, a former Democratic opposition researcher for Rahm Emanuel and Joe Biden who was reportedly trying to get a cable debate show for himself with Anthony Scaramucci.

Now, Stormy Daniels is storming at her previous lawyer Keith Davidson.

The Hill reports: “NBC News reported that Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, alleged in a lawsuit filed in Los Angeles that Keith Davidson “hatched a plan” with Cohen to get her to falsely deny the affair in a Fox News interview earlier this year after reports surfaced about the agreement and alleged affair. Daniels further claims that Davidson broke attorney-client confidentiality by alerting Cohen of her plans to hire her current attorney Michael Avenatti and share her story.”

What a dilemma for the story-switching porn star. The California Bar Association is investigating Stormy Daniels’ lawyer Michael Avenatti for unpaid income taxes

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/stormy-daniels-sues-her-former-attorney-as-her-story-falls-apart/
 
Why was the FBI’s sick loser, Peter Strzok, working on the totally discredited Mueller team of 13 Angry & Conflicted Democrats, when Strzok was giving Crooked Hillary a free pass yet telling his lover, lawyer Lisa Page, that “we’ll stop” Trump from becoming President? Witch Hunt!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2018




Ha ha ha! Witch hunt!
 
It's a sign!

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You know who hates this country? Tim Steelersfan and Trump supporters hate this country. Anyone who supports what this president stands for, how he's systematically destroying the rule of law and democratic institutions. Anyone who supports the Trump regime separating 2,000 children from their families at the border.

I'm a little fed up with you uneducated lemmings that just drink willing from the fountains that are PMSNBC, HuffPo et al. You say you get your news from reliable sources and you double check your findings. Bullshit.

Trump didn't "begin" this process. Your propaganda machines have YOU suckered and believing he did. Get woke.

"The Trump administration isn’t changing the rules that pertain to separating an adult from the child. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.

It’s the last that is operative here. The past practice had been to give a free pass to an adult who is part of a family unit."

Translation: Liberals BYPASSED and did NOT obey the law. They refused to enforce the law. They let this "slide."

Wonder why?? Need voters. Relax the laws, especially this one, more illegal immigrants.

Trump is merely enforcing a law...

And this problem predates Trump:

Mexican kids held for months as punishment for border-crossing

Written in 2015...by the WashPo. Wonder who was President then?

Now, as a result of that decision, young Mexicans are being held for months without charge in shelters across the United States, sometimes without their parents’ knowledge. Since the program began in May, 536 juveniles have been held — 248 of whom have been deported to Mexico after an average stay of 75 days, according to Border Patrol statistics. Mexican authorities say some of these repeat border-crossers have spent as much as six months in U.S. custody while they await an appearance before an immigration judge.

And...

In the past, Mexican minors picked up by the Border Patrol normally would be deported by bus, sometimes on the same day they arrived. Some of these kids have been captured more than 60 times, and Harris’s officers have identified about 800 young smugglers operating in Texas. Human rights workers in Mexico and the United States say these kids are often forced to work for the cartels or risk retaliation against themselves or their families.

Drug cartels “exploit hundreds of juveniles, using them as smugglers, guides, and scouts; in turn these juveniles are responsible for smuggling thousands of illegal aliens and large amounts of narcotics,” the Border Patrol told WOLA in a statement about the program.

See the HuffPos are preying on your sympathies. Detaining these children and separating them under Obama was justified because these children often were working for drug cartels, attempting to get into this country up to 60 times.

Now, the HuffPos are telling you these children separated from their parents are little innocent dreamers, just wishing for a better future...so they can admonish Trump.

See how this works?
 
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Democrats mistakenly tweet 2014 pictures from Obama’s term showing children from the Border in steel cages. They thought it was recent pictures in order to make us look bad, but backfires. Dems must agree to Wall and new Border Protection for good of country..

Obama's doing!

2014


http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/...nting-and-theyre-a-far-cry-from-obamas-cages/
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MOTHER JONES!


JULY/AUGUST 2014 ISSUE

70,000 Kids Will Show Up Alone at Our Border This Year. What Happens to Them?


Officials have been stunned by a “surge” of unaccompanied children crossing into the United States.

US authorities have struggled with how to handle the tens of thousands of kids who end up caught by the Border Patrol. Those coming from Mexico are taken straight back across. The rest are referred to the Department of Health and Human Services’ Office of Refugee Resettlement (rather than being put in immigration detention with adults) and placed in temporary shelters

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/child-migrants-surge-unaccompanied-central-america/
 
Vox admits that ******* Billy Blythe is responsible for the current immigration issue.

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11515132/iirira-clinton-immigration


The disastrous, forgotten 1996 law that created today's immigration problem
The immigration reform Hillary Clinton wants could be limited — or even undermined — by a law her husband signed.
By Dara Linddara@vox.com Apr 28, 2016, 8:40am EDT

Both sides of the aisle agree that the current US immigration system is broken. It's why immigration's stayed a hot-button political issue and policy debate, and part of what has made Donald Trump the likely 2016 Republican nominee for president.

But the system hasn't always been broken. Or rather, it hasn't always been broken in this particular way.

Everyone remembers that in 1986, President Ronald Reagan passed an "amnesty" law. But what most people don't know is that in 1996 — fresh off the heels of signing welfare reform, and two years after signing the "crime bill" — President Bill Clinton signed a bill that overhauled immigration enforcement in the US and laid the groundwork for the massive deportation machine that exists today.

Both welfare reform and the crime bills Clinton signed have been relitigated during a contentious Democratic primary, but the 1996 immigration bill — the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act — hasn't.

That's mostly because Democrats have come a long way on the issue since 1996, and advocates have been happy to let them do it without asking too many questions about the past. Only now are some progressive Democrats trying to raise the issue (32 members of the House of Representatives have signed onto a congressional resolution condemning the 1996 law, introduced Thursday by Rep. Raul Grijalva).

If Democrats ever find themselves in a position to pass the comprehensive immigration reform, they might find the past law's immigration legacy has been too consequential to ignore.
What '90s immigration reform did: made more people deportable and fewer people legalizable

There was no single provision of the 1996 law that was as dramatic as the 1986 "amnesty" law, signed by President Reagan, which is why he gets credit for the last major immigration reform. But the '96 law essentially invented immigration enforcement as we know it today — where deportation is a constant and plausible threat to millions of immigrants.

It was a bundle of provisions with a single goal: to increase penalties on immigrants who had violated US law in some way (whether they were unauthorized immigrants who'd violated immigration law or legal immigrants who'd committed other crimes).

Most immigration wonks call the 1996 law IIRIRA (pronounced "Ira-Ira") — and it's far from beloved by them. Here are some of their most significant complaints:

More people became eligible for deportation. Legal immigrants — including green-card holders — can be deported if they're convicted of certain crimes (which cover a broad umbrella of offenses, some of which aren't violent). But in 1996, Congress radically expanded which crimes made an immigrant eligible for deportation. And they made these changes retroactive.

"Overnight," says law professor Nancy Moravetz of NYU, "people who had formed their lives here — came here legally or had adjusted to legal status, were working here, building their families, had ordinary lives in which they were on the PTA and everything else — suddenly, because of some conviction, weren't even allowed to go in front of a judge anymore. They were just fast-tracked to deportation."

It got easier to deport people. Immigrants convicted of crimes weren't the only ones stripped of the ability to argue their case before a judge before getting deported. So did anyone apprehended within 100 miles of the border. And IIRIRA required the government to hold more immigrants in detention before deporting them — making it substantially harder for them to get lawyers.

These changes drastically reduced the amount of leeway that immigration judges and the executive branch had to exercise discretion in whether or not to deport an immigrant.

"Discretion was taken away from district directors and immigration judges almost entirely," says Doris Meissner, who was head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service at the time. "And so deportations started to go up, people were deported who otherwise would not have been deported."

The change to the law was so drastic that after a high-profile deportation of an immigrant over a minor crime led to public outcry, Republican members of Congress — including the lead author of IIRIRA — wrote the Clinton administration asking them to back down.

It got a lot harder for unauthorized immigrants to "get legal." For much of the 20th century, it was possible for at least some unauthorized immigrants to obtain legal status once they'd been in the US for a certain amount of time. Before 1996, for example, immigrants who'd been in the US for at least seven years could get legal status as long as they showed it would cause them "extreme hardship" to get deported.

These standards weren't easy to meet. But IIRIRA made them essentially impossible.

It limited "cancellation of removal" to immigrants who'd been in the US for at least 10 years. Instead of having to show that the immigrant herself would suffer "extreme hardship" if she was deported, she'd have to show that a US citizen (like her spouse or child) would suffer "exceptional and extremely unusual hardship." The simple fact that the family would be separated if she were deported wouldn't count. And the US could only grant this to 3,000 immigrants each year.

That essentially eliminated an existing back door to legal status. But IIRIRA did even more. It locked a front door to legal status, too.

Marrying a US citizen or permanent resident makes you eligible to apply for a green card. So does having an immediate relative who's a US citizen (like a child), as long as the citizen's over 18. These are true whether or not you already live in the US. And before IIRIRA, it was true regardless of whether or not you were legal to begin with.

Starting after IIRIRA passed in 1996, though, an unauthorized immigrant couldn't directly apply for legal status — even if he had married a US citizen, or qualified for a green card through a relative. Immigrants were banished for at least three years if they'd lived in the US without papers for six months; the banishment lasted 10 years if the immigrant had lived in the US without papers for a year or more.

You could waive these bars if you could show that your spouse or child would suffer "extreme hardship" — but you had to leave the country to do it, triggering the ban before you found out if you'd gotten the waiver. Many immigrants understandably felt it wasn't worth the risk.

The provision became known as the "3- and 10-year bars" — a technical-sounding term that is so widely known and reviled among immigrants that Hillary Clinton uses it in stump speeches.
This law laid the framework for modern spikes in deportation

"I don't think people fully appreciated what those laws had done," says Nancy Morawetz, referring to both IIRIRA and the other 1996 laws that affected immigration. In some ways, they're "still being sorted out today."

But one effect was clear: After IIRIRA, deportation from the United States went from a rare phenomenon to a relatively common one. "Before 1996, internal enforcement activities had not played a very significant role in immigration enforcement," sociologists Douglas Massey and Karen Pren have written. "Afterward, these activities rose to levels not seen since the deportation campaigns of the Great Depression."

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This particular law was passed during an era where Congress and the Clinton administration were both working to increase the amount of spending and agents on the US–Mexico border.

And after 9/11, the way the federal government handled immigration changed in two major ways. The bureaucracy was reorganized — and moved from the Department of Justice to the Department of Homeland Security. And the funding for immigration enforcement got put on steroids.

The combination of those gave rise to what Meissner and the Migration Policy Institute have called a "formidable machinery" for immigrant deportations — a machinery that took the US from deporting 70,000 immigrants in 1996 to 400,000 a year though the first term of the Obama administration. But that machine was built on the legal scaffolding of the options IIRIRA opened up.

"Both of those things have had so much more force because of this underlying statutory framework that they were able to tap into," says Meissner. In retrospect, "it was sort of a perfect storm."
After '90s immigration reform, the unauthorized population tripled

But even though deportations exploded after the passage of IIRIRA, it didn't keep the population of unauthorized immigrants in the US from growing. It went from 5 million the year IIRIRA was passed to 12 million by 2006. (By contrast, during the decade between the Reagan "amnesty" and IIRIRA, the unauthorized population grew by only 2 million.)

These two things didn't happen despite each other. More immigration enforcement is one big reason why there are so many unauthorized immigrants in the US today.

A lot of this is because of the increase of enforcement on the US–Mexico border — something that was happening even without IIRIRA. Many unauthorized immigrants used to shuttle back and forth between jobs in the US and families in Mexico. Once it got harder to cross the border without being caught, they settled in the US — "essentially hunkering down and staying once they had successfully run the gauntlet at the border," as Massey and Pren write — and encouraged their families to settle alongside them.

(This wasn't the only reason unauthorized immigrants started settling in the US around this time. The types of jobs available for unauthorized workers were changing, with seasonal agricultural jobs being replaced by year-round service-industry ones, for one thing. But it was certainly a major factor.)

But if border enforcement encouraged families to stay, IIRIRA prevented them from obtaining legal status. By this point, a majority of the unauthorized-immigrant population of the US has been here 10 years — more than enough time to qualify for cancellation of removal, if IIRIRA hadn't made it so difficult to get. Millions of them have children who are US citizens.

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The 3- and 10-year bars alone have caused millions of immigrants to remain unauthorized who'd otherwise be eligible for green cards or US citizenship by now. According to Douglas Massey's estimate, if those bars hadn't been instituted in 1996, there would be 5.3 million fewer unauthorized immigrants in the US today. In other words, the population of unauthorized immigrants in the US would literally be half the size it is now.
A Republican bill that Democrats couldn't vote against

So who's to blame for all of this?

Unlike some of the Clinton-era laws that the Democratic Party has now moved to the left of — like the 1994 crime bill and welfare reform — IIRIRA was not President Clinton's bill. It was Republicans who'd pressed the issue of tightening immigration restrictions during the 1994 campaign (both in Congress and in California, where Gov. Pete Wilson rode to reelection on a ballot proposition severely restricting unauthorized immigrants' use of state services like public schools).

When Republicans won the House of Representatives in 1994, they — and especially Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), the new chair of the Immigration Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee — came in with a mission. "They were about the business of really toughening up immigration law," says Doris Meissner, who was head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service at the time. "And that is what they did" — sticking immigration provisions in welfare reform and the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996 (or AEDPA).

And then there was IIRIRA, which was originally introduced as a comprehensive immigration enforcement bill: seriously tightening the requirements for legal immigration; making it harder to apply for and receive asylum in the US; and increasing immigration enforcement.

"Nobody really felt like they had a lot of leverage" against the Republican plan, says Charles Kamasaki of the National Council of La Raza.

Pro-immigration Republicans and Democrats were able to limit the damage by dividing the bill. They blocked the restrictions on future legal immigration, and were "at least partially successful in mitigating" restrictions on asylum (in Kamasaki's telling).

But at the heart of the split-the-bill strategy was the recognition that the enforcement provisions against "criminal aliens" were too popular to stop — not only among Republicans, but among congressional Democrats and the Clinton White House.

"There was a pretty spirited fight on the 3- and 10-year bars" in Congress, says Kamasaki, as well as on a few other amendments. "But the votes weren't even close."

The administration certainly didn't seem to have a problem with the enforcement provisions of IIRIRA. "We all understand the problem of illegal immigrants. We're all trying to ensure that we have additional enforcement to protect against illegal immigrants," said White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta at the time. "But I, for the life of me, do not understand why we need to penalize legal immigrants in that process."

Privately, Meissner says now, "There were many parts of it that required really swallowing hard."

But publicly, the White House was enthusiastic — and reinforced the idea that while restrictions on legal immigrants and immigration might be controversial, getting tough on immigrants who'd violated the laws was not.

In a press conference after President Clinton signed IIRIRA into law, Panetta crowed: "We were able, I think, as a result of this negotiation to be able to modify — eliminate — the large hits with regards to legal immigrants, while keeping some very strong enforcement measures with regards to illegal immigration."
The Clinton White House wanted an "opportunity" to demonstrate it was tough on immigrants

If IIRIRA was as terrible a bill as Meissner claims, why did Panetta celebrate signing it? For that matter, why did President Clinton sign the bill at all?

The answer is, essentially, that on some level the Clinton administration really did want to look tough on immigration. And that was more important than vetoing a bill because some in the administration didn't like its policy provisions.

"It's certainly the case that the administration was enforcement-minded where illegal immigration was concerned," Meissner says. That started at the top.

Bill Clinton had personal experience with immigration as a political liability: the only election loss of his career (his gubernatorial reelection campaign of 1980) came after he'd agreed to house Cuban refugees in Arkansas after the Mariel boatlift. He was convinced, even as president, that being soft on immigration was a no-go for Democrats — just like being soft on crime or welfare.

So from one angle, the administration painted itself into a corner with IIRIRA: It had to sign any bill Congress offered, and this was the one it got.

"The administration was taking a position that immigration enforcement needed to be strengthened," says Meissner. "Under those circumstances, you've got to try to get as good a bill as you can get. But if you veto a bill — it would have been viewed as politically dishonest."

But the Clinton administration might not have been as reluctant to sign IIRIRA as Meissner implies.

In a memo written in November 1996, a few months after IIRIRA was passed, a senior adviser to the president named Rahm Emanuel wrote a memo recommending a series of aggressive steps President Clinton could take in the wake of the law — including "claim and achieve record deportations of criminal aliens."

"After the Crime Bill passed in 1994, we built a strong record on crime," Emanuel wrote. "The illegal immigration legislation provides that same opportunity; now that the legislation is passed, we can build up a strong Administration record on immigration."
Democrats swiftly moved left on immigration since then — and most advocates are happy to leave the past in the past

Despite Emanuel's prediction, though, immigration and crime have followed totally different trajectories for the Democratic Party over the past two decades. While criminal-justice reform has only recently become a consensus issue among Democrats — and many of them are still less enthusiastic than certain reform-minded Republicans — comprehensive immigration reform, including a path to citizenship for the 11 million unauthorized immigrants currently in the US, has enjoyed unanimous support among Democrats for nearly a decade.

The shift started in the years right after IIRIRA's passage. In 1997, Congress passed a law protecting some Central American asylum-seekers from deportation. In 2000, it passed a law making it a little easier for people to immigrate legally to the US to be with relatives. By 2000, Charles Kamasaki says, with the exception of "two or three" Democrats in each chamber, "it was pretty clear" that the Democratic Party stood with immigration advocates.
Advocates, for their part, welcomed Democrats with open arms. When Democrats who'd previously been "enforcement-minded" on immigration started emphasizing the need to let unauthorized immigrants get citizenship — up to and including Rahm Emanuel, who as mayor of Chicago has been a loud supporter of "welcoming" immigrants — many advocates praised them for "leaning in" on the issue. The harsh words of the past, or the signing of bills like IIRIRA, were only mentioned to point out how much the Emanuel wing of the party had evolved.

This approach had its advantages: It helped immigration reform become a Democratic priority, rather than one that split both major parties. But it also meant there was no opportunity to reckon with the effects of the 1996 law, because no one had an incentive to bring them up.

Immigration-enforcer Republicans could use the 1986 "amnesty" against their colleagues, in a tone of "We tried this once, let's never try it again." But immigration-reformer Democrats didn't have any reason to remind the public that any Democrat had tried enforcement at all.

This isn't to say that none of IIRIRA's provisions have come under criticism. In particular, Democrats have started turning against the 3- and 10-year bars — the IIRIRA provision that's done the most to keep unauthorized immigrants from getting legal.

President Obama made it easier for some immigrants to apply for waivers from the bars without leaving the country. Hillary Clinton has promised to pass a law getting rid of them entirely. But as Bernie Sanders — or rather, Bernie Sanders's campaign Twitter account — pointed out when Clinton made this promise at a debate, she neglected to mention her husband had signed the bars into law.
The legacy of "felons, not families"

The 3- and 10-year bars might be the single biggest issue with IIRIRA, but they're hardly the only things keeping immigrants from becoming legal, or dooming them to deportation. "We haven't seen anybody speak out about the issue of limited discretion and over-enforcement for people who have any kind of criminal issue," points out Nancy Morawetz. "And that's a problem."

Indeed, even the current, more progressive Democratic message on immigration reinforces one of the biggest themes of IIRIRA, and the deportation regime it laid the groundwork for: that immigrants with criminal involvement ought to be deported, with no questions asked.

President Obama loves to say that he's trying to deport "felons, not families." But as Morawetz says, that rhetoric "ignores the fact that people who might have a felony conviction 20 years ago have families." Should they be deported? IIRIRA says yes. No Democrat has yet been able to say no.

This continued desire to stay tough on "criminal aliens" has made it harder for Democratic administrations to restrain enforcement — even to bring it back to Clinton-era levels, when the rhetoric against "illegal immigration" was harsher than it is today. "Criminal aliens" were one of the chief drivers of the record-setting deportation rates of Obama's first term.

After IIRIRA passed, Doris Meissner's INS managed to stall a program that would have allowed local law enforcement to enforce federal immigration laws. When cities and counties started asking to get approved for the program, she says, INS "said that we wanted to participate in an across-the-board community discussion" about how they'd use their authority before signing a memorandum of agreement. "After going through maybe three or four of those in jurisdictions, it became clear how complicated it was," and interest disappeared.

The program was reanimated and given new teeth under the Bush administration, however. And under Obama, local/federal cooperation on immigration law has become the rule — even if local police officers themselves aren't always involved. Indeed, when President Obama attempted to reform his signature local/federal cooperation program by including, among other things, the input of local stakeholders — exactly what Meissner had done in the late 1990s — it was treated as politically controversial.

In other words, the '90s reform shaped the very framework with which we're using to discuss immigration reform today.
Will Democrats' inability to reckon with their past limit the effectiveness of immigration reform?

Right now, this is somewhat of an academic conversation: with Republicans controlling Congress and Democrats controlling the White House. But if Democrats manage to retake Congress in 2016 and keep the White House, they may find themselves with a real shot at passing comprehensive immigration reform.

One of the biggest sticking points with comprehensive immigration reform is that everyone wants to impose certain requirements on who can qualify for a path to citizenship — but because the unauthorized population is in the shadows, no one knows exactly how many people would qualify for reform under a given set of requirements.

In 2013, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that only 8 million of the 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the US would end up becoming citizens under the requirements of the Senate's immigration bill, which briefly looked like it might actually happen. But it didn't explain how it arrived at that number, or how many people it thought would be excluded based on the bill's various requirements for legalization — one of which excluded most people with criminal records.

"Because of the lack of measurable standards to estimate the affected population," says Jose Magana-Salgado, managing policy attorney for the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, "it is likely that criminal bars will inadvertently exclude a larger than expected number of people from relief under immigration reform. And because we'd only find out the breadth of this exclusion after the passage of reform — a once in a lifetime event — those people would remain forever excluded from permanent status and mired in the shadows."

Of course, it's very difficult to get politicians to care about something whose effects can't be measured. That's one of the bitter lessons of the '96 law: If the consequences of a law are indirect enough, it's very easy for people to forget that it's there.
 
Bammy figured out how to slow down illegal immigration. Wreck the economy so there's nowhere for the illegals to work and not as many of them come here.
 
Trump is WAY ahead of everyone on this (like he always has been since elected) and he's using the media like puppets (like he has from the beginning).

Trump had the PERFECT plan for a new immigration law. He was going to repeal Obama's DACA rule (which was unconstitutional and an executive branch overreach). This was going to create pressure on Congress to do something that INCLUDED DACA protections but also change immigration in this country fundamentally (i.e. get rid of that stupid 1996 rules from Clinton).

But there was a hiccup in this. Some liberal court judge took the law into their own hands and issued one of the dumbest rulings of the century: that a sitting President couldn't use an executive order to repeal an executive order. Don't ask me how this happened. It was likely a Clinton or Obama judge that made the ruling and one that choose to be political rather than uphold the law. It happens (although it shouldn't).

The minute the judge put a stay on Trump executive order on DACA, there was no more "deadline" for Congress to act on immigration and Congress did what they always do: they kicked the can down the road, did nothing and wanted to worry about their precious re-election campaigns.

But Trump doesn't play this "game" like other Presidents would have. He doesn't agree with or care about re-election campaigns. So he and Jeff Sessions came up with Plan B. We'll ******* enforce all the bad immigration laws like hell and people will start to get upset. If the stupid judge doesn't allow me to cancel DACA act, I'll **** them and just enforce the law on the books to the Nth degree.

Now (finally) you are hearing Congress talk about re-visiting immigration reform (which of course has to include the four things Trump wants and will sign: DACA amnesty, Wall funding, Merit-based immigration reform and his ability to ban immigration from terrorist nations). He's not going to sign a bill without this stuff.

Now remember, if Trump/Sessions/Homeland Security didn't do this "maximum enforcement" of the law, Congress would be doing NOTHING on this issue. NOTHING!!!

This is the way Trump works. He doesn't take ******* "no" for an answer. Just because he lost to a stupid judge back in March, he found another way to get it done. And this WILL WORK. All those ******* congressional swamp losers are scrambling like hell and actually working again (which they should be doing all the time, but they don't). They are working on immigration reform and this media storm and pity party and emotion heart-string campaign to make everyone feel bad "about the families" will work. Because congress is a bunch of ******* and cave like they always do.

Trump will win. He will get immigration reform. He will get his wall. He will get it ALL. And by the time 2020 comes around, it will be just another notch in his belt full of "wins". No one will care how he did it. Only that he did it.

The 2018 Immigration Reform Act will happen. And it will be 100 times better for this country than what is currently being used (a combination of the 1965 Act and 1996 revisions).

And it never would have happened unless Trump played (is playing) this game better than anyone I've seen in my lifetime. **** congress. **** the media. They are getting played here and Trump is going to get the Immigration Act he wants and it will have his ******* name on it (just like the Tax Cuts).
 
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Where was the lying media then?


Orphaned by deportation: the crisis of American children left behind

2014

Ten-year-old Andrés Jiménez was looking forward to the end of summer. Not because he was particularly eager to return to school, but because the end of summer was meant to be the president’s deadline for taking action on immigration.

But Obama’s deadline came and went, and with it Andrés’s hopes of reuniting his family after his father was wrenched from his life three years ago.

At a rally for immigration reform in Washington DC last month, the young Andrés begged President Barack Obama to take executive action on immigration policy and help reunite families like his own who are torn apart by deportations.

“President Obama, I want to have a family like yours,”
Andrés said slowly in Spanish. And then, in a heart-rending moment captured on national television, the young boy breaks down in tears as he talks about his father’s deportation.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-reform-obama-deportations-families-separated

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Hillary: Minors crossing border must be sent home

“They should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults in their families are.

There are concerns about whether all of them can be sent back, but I think all of them who can be should be reunited with their families…

We have to send a clear message: Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay.

We don’t want to send a message that’s contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...nt-home/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cffbd6e8903
 
Where was the lying media then?


Orphaned by deportation: the crisis of American children left behind

2014

Ten-year-old Andrés Jiménez was looking forward to the end of summer. Not because he was particularly eager to return to school, but because the end of summer was meant to be the president’s deadline for taking action on immigration.

But Obama’s deadline came and went, and with it Andrés’s hopes of reuniting his family after his father was wrenched from his life three years ago.

At a rally for immigration reform in Washington DC last month, the young Andrés begged President Barack Obama to take executive action on immigration policy and help reunite families like his own who are torn apart by deportations.

“President Obama, I want to have a family like yours,”
Andrés said slowly in Spanish. And then, in a heart-rending moment captured on national television, the young boy breaks down in tears as he talks about his father’s deportation.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-reform-obama-deportations-families-separated

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Hillary: Minors crossing border must be sent home

“They should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults in their families are.

There are concerns about whether all of them can be sent back, but I think all of them who can be should be reunited with their families…

We have to send a clear message: Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay.

We don’t want to send a message that’s contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...nt-home/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cffbd6e8903

Pointing out facts is racist.
 
Where was the lying media then?


Orphaned by deportation: the crisis of American children left behind

2014

Ten-year-old Andrés Jiménez was looking forward to the end of summer. Not because he was particularly eager to return to school, but because the end of summer was meant to be the president’s deadline for taking action on immigration.

But Obama’s deadline came and went, and with it Andrés’s hopes of reuniting his family after his father was wrenched from his life three years ago.

At a rally for immigration reform in Washington DC last month, the young Andrés begged President Barack Obama to take executive action on immigration policy and help reunite families like his own who are torn apart by deportations.

“President Obama, I want to have a family like yours,”
Andrés said slowly in Spanish. And then, in a heart-rending moment captured on national television, the young boy breaks down in tears as he talks about his father’s deportation.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-reform-obama-deportations-families-separated

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Hillary: Minors crossing border must be sent home

“They should be sent back as soon as it can be determined who responsible adults in their families are.

There are concerns about whether all of them can be sent back, but I think all of them who can be should be reunited with their families…

We have to send a clear message: Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay.

We don’t want to send a message that’s contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...nt-home/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7cffbd6e8903

"That's gold Jerry, GOLD!!!"
 
Hillary's position has "evolved" since then.
 
Want the truth...go to Rush
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The reason it’s at the top of the Democrat media mountain of issues of the day is because that’s the latest issue they think they can damage Trump with.

After so many years, I fail to accept the premise that so many people do! You can’t blame ’em. The media says it; you believe it. The premise is: “Donald Trump is a mean ogre, and he hates immigrants — and so when they show up as a family, Donald Trump has a policy that sends the kids over to that camp and the parents over to that camp, and they’re done.”

Sorry, I know that doesn’t happen.

So I dug deep, ladies and gentlemen. I wanted to find out what this really is, and so I got some audio sound bites from Kirstjen Nielsen at the Department of Homeland Security. And then in researching this, I came across a very comprehensive column by Rich Lowry at National Review back on May 28th of this year — and interestingly, it’s titled, “The Truth About Separating Kids — Some economic migrants are using children as chits, but the problem is fixable — if Congress acts.”


So here basically… This begins the unpacking of this.

“The Trump administration isn’t changing the rules that pertain to separating an adult from the child. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.” Well, wait! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! That changes everything here. “Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child…”[

I fully believe the media would ignore that.

I firmly believe the media would lie through their teeth, that every family is a legit family.

If the adult “is put into criminal proceedings,” they also separate. - R. Limbaugh
 
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It is the "put into criminal proceeding" that has changed from this administration to the last.

Trump/Sessions have decide to prosecute EVERYONE that illegally enters the country, with or without a child. In the past (and this was grossly under reported and discussed), older Administrations going back to Clinton were lax on charging every illegal they encountered. They might have just let a mother/child or whole family into the country and not actually prosecute them or "charge" them with a crime (even though clearly under our laws they did).

I have said this for 2 years here. Obama's legacy is one of ruling by executive orders & memorandum, selective enforcement of laws, and weaponizing/politicizing executive branch agencies like DOJ, CIA, FBI and IRS. That's his legacy. It is FACT he did these things with hard, irrefutable evidence.

Now there are people here that think all these things were fine under Obama and now completely impeachable under Trump and my answer is it can't be both. And I am fine if you stand against what Obama did and hope things change in the future. But please call a spade a spade and admit we have major problems in executive branch agencies that started WAY before Trump that need rooted out and eliminated. Unless you are willing to admit these basic facts and want to discuss how to change it logically, I'm not really willing to listen to your point of view. If all you whine about (like Tibs does about every three weeks) is the "fall of America" like chicken little, I'm not really going to give you the time of day.

You have to DISCUSS it like an adult. You have to bring something to the table that shows me Trump is doing anything different than Obama or Bush or Clinton before him. Because him being an *** on Twitter isn't enough for me. It might bother you like hell (it certainly does our media) but that is not enough to prove to me our executive branch powers and checks and balances are being corroded like they were under Obama.

We all get to vote in 2020. Trump is not a dictator. He is going to win fair and square. I'm going to VOTE for him. And I am one of many.
 
Pointing out facts is racist.

Surely u remember all the uproar back then....


Waves of immigrant minors present crisis for Obama, Congress

MAY 28, 2014

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of children unaccompanied by parents or relatives are flooding across the southern U.S. border illegally, forcing the Obama administration and Congress to grapple with both a humanitarian crisis and a budget dilemma.

An estimated 60,000 such children will pour into the United States this year, according to the administration, up from about 6,000 in 2011. Now, Washington is trying to figure out how to pay for their food, housing and transportation once they are taken into custody.

The flow is expected to grow. The number of unaccompanied, undocumented immigrants who are under 18 will likely double in 2015 to nearly 130,000 and cost U.S. taxpayers $2 billion, up from $868 million this year, according to administration estimates.

The shortage of housing for these children, some as young as 3, has already become so acute that an emergency shelter at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, has been opened and can accommodate 1,000 of them, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said in an interview with Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...isis-for-obama-congress-idUSKBN0E814T20140528
 
Hillary's position has "evolved" since then.

That's why I'm going to keep quoting her, lol

Hillary 2014: “Just Because Your Child Gets Across The Border, That Doesn’t Mean The Child Gets To Stay”

“We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay,” the former secretary of state said. “So, we don’t want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or will encourage more children to make that dangerous journey."

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09...ts-across-border-doesnt-mean-child-gets-stay/
 
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