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And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

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DBS1970 said:
This was done two years ago with the Hildebeast. You leftist twats have no original thoughts do you?
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Regardless, it's on point. Sorry to have upset you.
 
Makes no sense. Trump is scoring one touchdown after another. This looks more like a liberal wet dream sequence.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Makes no sense. Trump is scoring one touchdown after another.
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Maybe in your mind, and in the minds of the hardcore Trump base. Not in reality. Not that it matters to folks like yourself.
 
Tibs, you have no context at all... i travel this country extensively... outside of the hardcore liberals, nobody really hates trump... he is at worse an annoying egotistical guy... most of his policies resonate well with the working class... and frankly they don’t care about his mannerisms...


The liberal echo chamber isn’t reality... its how people ignored trumps chances in the first place....
 
madinsomniac said:
The liberal echo chamber isn’t reality... its how people ignored trumps chances in the first place....
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Just pray he doesn't burn the place down to the ground before Mueller wraps up and/or the Dems insert some much needed accountability after the mid-terms. Hold your breath until then, that it all goes well. Nothing like a wildy unhinged lunatic running the country and the military.
 
Tibs said:
Just pray he doesn't burn the place down to the ground before Mueller wraps up and/or the Dems insert some much needed accountability after the mid-terms. Hold your breath until then, that it all goes well. Nothing like a wildy unhinged lunatic running the country and the military.
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We already got rid of that lunatic in 2016. He was a well spoken eloquent lunatic but a lunatic none the less. Trump is crazy like a fox. He uses his appearance of lunacy to disarm his opponents and throw them off balance while manipulating the discourse the way he wants even with a defiantly liberal unhinged media. He plays them like a fiddle.
 
This is why so many people think Mueller will find meat on the bone when it comes to Trump and Russia. To understand the real possiblity that collusion and conspiracy took place, you have to wrap your head around Trump's relationship with the Russian mob going back 30-40 years. The Russian mob being an extension of the Russian government. Here is an interview w the director of the documentary Active Measures, which I posted about earlier. You don't have to believe any of it, but maybe make an effort to understand where this (Trump/Russia) is coming from. Hint: it has nothing to do with Hillary, the media, the deep state or partisan politics. It has everything to do with Trump, Putin and Russia.

ps - I'll keep posting updates to this thread as new information becomes available, deal with it.


 
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I really can't watch Bill Maher blather on for 7 minutes, but honestly...Trump is an international real estate developer who owned several casinos. If this is all about the same "Russians mobsters frequented his casinos" or "Russian mobsters rented his condos" that we've heard before, I'll say again, so what? Do you think Trump is the only multinational corporation that has ever done business with any shady Russians? Do you think there aren't mobsters of several nationalities frequenting various casinos around the world?

It's more of the same trying to blow up all things Russian, no matter how tangential or insignificant, and connect them with Trump.

Again this whole thing started because Trump opened his big mouth and praised Putin in a debate. Since then it's been a desperate hunt for something, anything, to connect him with the Russian government in some way. So far there is nothing of any substance. Nada.

It's veering on the ridiculous.
 
Tibs said:
This is why so many people think Mueller will find meat on the bone when it comes to Trump and Russia. To understand the real possiblity that collusion and conspiracy took place, you have to wrap your head around Trump's relationship with the Russian mob going back 30-40 years. The Russian mob being an extension of the Russian government. Here is an interview w the director of the documentary Active Measures, which I posted about earlier. You don't have to believe any of it, but maybe make an effort to understand where this (Trump/Russia) is coming from. Hint: it has nothing to do with Hillary, the media, the deep state or partisan politics. It has everything to do with Trump, Putin and Russia.

ps - I'll keep posting updates to this thread as new information becomes available, deal with it.
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Guess what, Tibs. If you want to get anything built in NY or NJ or Philadelphia, you are greasing the palms of some of the most despicable characters. You are paying off the mob, the Teamsters, the Longshoremen, elected officials, code enforcers, building inspectors, etc. They are all on the take, and want to be paid before anything is built. If you don't pay, you have problems. Once you pay, the problems go away. Cost of doing business. Built in to the budget. Any major developer knows the game, and Donald Trump know it better than most.

I'm sure the Russians are worse, if you want to develop properties there.

Washington is no different than mobsters.

Wake up Tibs. This is hardball. Trump is a hardballer, and is learning the Washington game. I never considered him a choirboy, but he is destroying the Washington old boys network. I support him 100%. You should too.
 
hamster said:
Washington is no different than mobsters.
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Unless they're Russian mobsters with direct ties to Putin and serve as agents of a hostile foreign government. Then there's a huge difference, wether you see it or not.
 
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Tibs said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion on something you're not willing to read or watch. That usually doesn't turn out too well.
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Well just for ***** and grins I did watch it, and it was exactly what I had guessed it was.

Do you think Donald Trump is intimately aware of every person his multinational corporation ever sold a condo to? Do you think Donald Trump is intimately acquainted with every person who ever set foot in one of his casinos? Once again your video is a big pile of completely unsubstantiated insinuations, baseless smears with the obsequious Maher slurping it up and not bothering to question a word of it.

If Donald Trump, one of the most high profile billionaires in the world, was laundering money for the Russian government and this is such common knowledge that Bill Maher is discussing it on his TV show, how is that no one, not one law enforcement agency the world over, ever bothered to look into it until Mueller? Did you ever ask yourself that question? Seems a bit illogical dontcha think?

Let me me know when you have something, ANYTHING, concrete that connects Donald Trump to the Russian government.

I won't hold my breath
 
Tibs said:
Unless they're Russian mobsters with direct ties to Moscow and Putin. Then there's a huge ******* difference, wether you see it or not.
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Why hasn't Mueller, with all of his resources, found them? They aren't there.
Your sources of info suck. I'm am surprised you are so duped. You are citing failed comedians/TV personalities, and some agenda based movie makers.

The Mueller probe is winding down. He might have 1 more indictment, lying to the FBI kind of **** stuff, and then it will be done.

The Mueller Probe will go down as a national disgrace. Bet on it.
 
Nothing strange or suspicious about this. At all. They all just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Trump simply 'fighting back' against the deep state. Nothing here that would implicate Trump or show that he's running scared from the law.

Let’s go through the list:

1. US Attorney Preet Bahara of SDNY
2. Deputy Atty General Sally Yates
3. FBI Director James Comey
4. DCI John Brennan
5. DNI Jim Clapper
6. Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe
7. FBI Agent Peter Strzok
8. Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein
9. Special Counsel Robert Mueller

Trump Has Fired Or Threatened Most Officials Involved In The Russia Probe
https://mavenroundtable.io/theintel...d-in-the-russia-probe-wNyvmI617kGIRSkcQCI8lw/

A little more than a year and a half into his first term — and with the shadow of an obstruction of justice probe hanging over his head — President Donald Trump has fired or threatened most of the senior officials related to the Russia investigation.
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Even more happenstance, just a bizarre set of circumstances. Pure coincidence.

Trump’s Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/

Some of President Trump’s favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia.
Bruce Ohr. Lisa Page. Andrew Weissmann. Andrew McCabe. President Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked these FBI and Justice Department officials as dishonest “Democrats” engaged in a partisan “witch hunt” led by the special counsel determined to tie his campaign to Russia. But Trump’s attacks have also served to highlight another thread among these officials and others who have investigated his campaign: their extensive experience in probing money laundering and organized crime, particularly as they pertain to Russia.
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And a bit of background for those who think - naively - this is just about a few Russians renting or buying condos from Trump.

The president has denied having any business ties to Russia, and his dream of building a Trump Tower Moscow never materialized. But his links to Russian oligarchs and mobsters from the former Soviet Union have been documented: Millions of dollars from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trump’s developments and casinos throughout the 1990s, as the journalist Craig Unger has chronicled, as oligarchs looked for a place to hide their money in the West. The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was once known as a hot spot for Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian Mafia, and quickly became the “favorite East Coast destination” of the top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, according to the 2000 book Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America. It was also repeatedly cited by the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for having inadequate money-laundering controls.

By the early 2000s, a third of the buyers of Trump Tower’s most expensive condos were Russia-linked shell companies or individuals from the former Soviet Union—including Eduard Nektalov, a mob-connected diamond dealer from Uzbekistan, and David Bogatin, a Russian-émigré mobster who specialized in bootlegging gasoline. Bogatin’s brother was involved in an elaborate stock fraud with the top Russian mob boss Mogilevich, who himself is allied with Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov—another Russian mob leader who ran an entire gambling and money-laundering network out of Unit 63A in Trump Tower, just three floors below Trump’s own residence.(Tokhtakhounov was a VIP attendee at Trump’s Miss Universe pageant in Moscow just seven months after the gambling ring was busted by the FBI.) Trump’s own sons have boasted of the Trump Organization’s dependence on Russian money. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Trump Jr. said in 2008. “We don’t rely on American banks,” Eric Trump reportedly told a golfing buddy in 2014. “We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
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As far as what crimes will be uncovering in the special counsel investigation? We won't know until Mueller releases his findings. But you cannot ignore or wish away Trump's deep-rooted connections to the Russian mob and the extraordinary steps he's taken to threaten, attack and sabotage the investigation, every step of the way. Again, nothing to see here, move right along.
 
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Gone yet?

No?

b b b b but The Russians!

hahahahahahaha





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Do Pence and Kelly have coloring books in front of them?
 
Interesting.

Watergate attorney says Trump will 'undoubtedly be impeached'
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...rney-says-trump-will-undoubtedly-be-impeached

Andrew Hall, who served as an attorney for President Nixon’s top adviser in the Watergate scandal, said in a recent interview that President Trump will "undoubtedly be impeached.”

In a recent interview with The Independent, Hall, who had served as counsel for John Ehrlichman, Nixon’s former senior adviser for domestic affairs who was later convicted of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury, said he is watching history repeat itself with Trump as more of his associates become caught up in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian election interference.

“The coverup is always worse than the crime,” the attorney told the British publication. “And this one is very shady. We have a sitting president who will undoubtedly be impeached.”

Hall’s remarks arrive as more bombshell revelations emerge surrounding the release of veteran journalist Bob Woodward’s book about the Trump administration, including the news of an alleged mock interview former Trump attorney John Dowd arranged with the president on Jan. 27 to help Trump prepare for a possible sit-down with Mueller.

“The idea to prepare a witness in and of itself is a good idea, but the fact that he’s incapable of being truthful throughout the entire exam is pretty scary,” Hall said.

“It raises a whole lot of issues,” he continued. “If a lawyer knows his client is not telling the truth, he can’t sit by and let that happen, he can’t participate and he must disassociate himself with that activity … otherwise, they lose their license for facilitating perjury.”

Woodward has said in recent interviews promoting his book that Dowd concluded that the president was “disabled” and unable to “tell the truth” following the practice interview and also allegedly called the president a liar.
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presented with scientific fact as presented by the director and producer, uses the history channel as its medium and still more believable than the **** documentary tibs is peddling.

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Superman said:
presented with scientific fact as presented by the director and producer, uses the history channel as its medium and still more believable than the **** documentary tibs is peddling.
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Supe, have you watched it? Just curious.
 
Tibs said:
Supe, have you watched it? Just curious.
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starts off with the unquestioned claim that Putin is Trump's puppetmaster.

fifth word in that sentence is enough, Tibs.
surely you can see how this can devolve into ****-slinging.
 
Superman said:
starts off with the unquestioned claim that Putin is Trump's puppetmaster. fifth word in that sentence is enough, Tibs. surely you can see how this can devolve into ****-slinging.
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You're referring to the interview with the film's director and Bill Maher, or the actual documentary itself? Sounds like you haven't watched either. Ok thanks, was just wondering if you were willing to expand your horizons and learn something new.
 
further, even if Trump sold condos to a Russian, how can you just accept that those condos were, unquestionably, "filled" with Russian mobsters?

btw - David Bogatin, the Russian mobster with ties to Putin, the kremlin, kgb, etc, etc was in our grasp a few years ago. If he had done anything illegal as far as purchasing real estate, associating with the mob, etc, don't you believe the same criminal justice system you uphold to a high regard would have done everything in its power to jail him then? the guy may be sleazy, but if I'm selling property and running a business with stakeholders and investors to answer to - and pay - i'm just selling the property and not conducting a morals and ethics litmus test before papers are signed.

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html

more as i watch this one-sided documentary later.
 
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