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And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

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Sarge said:
Damn Tibs, ya kinda left out some important info.
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How so? It's all there in the article I linked.

This just proves when it comes to election meddling 'all roads lead to Rome', or in this case, to Putin. The fact Russian intelligence infiltrated not only the Trump campaign, but also the NRA and evidently segments of the GOP, does not match up with Trump's narrative he's been trying to push down our throats. Nobody's buying that bs anymore, thank God. Well, outside of the bamboozled Trump cult, who'll probably never accept the facts in this case, not even years from now.
 
Sarge said:
Damn Tibs, ya kinda left out some important info.
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No no no no no. Tibs JUST told us all the facts are coming to light.

Wait!!!!!!!!!! Shittttt he meant "his" kind of facts, like the media he worships - partial and omitted facts, distorted truths and in some cases outright lies.

We should have asked what "type" of facts he meant.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
No no no no no. Tibs JUST told us all the facts are coming to light. Wait!!!!!!!!!! Shittttt he meant "his" kind of facts, like the media he worships - partial and omitted facts, distorted truths and in some cases outright lies.We should have asked what "type" of facts he meant.
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I see you're ready to go off your rocker again. I understand these are trying times, you feel the world crumbling around you. Try to relax and take it easy. You're not under indictment, are you? What are you so worried about?
 
These are tumultuous times indeed. Let's pray Trump holds it together before he does something really stupid.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump is more afraid of what Putin could do to him & his image than Mueller or anything else. The extremes he may go to to escape that is why he was an unacceptable risk, not merely unfit.</p>— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1072150835331821568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Leaders who care only for themselves—not a global, national or party interest—are intrinsically dangerous and unstable. They are capable of shocking actions. Putin and Trump are both in this category.</p>— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1072153509297078273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I fear an outbreak of violence that both men feel will suit their desperate domestic situations. Putin has done it many times before. Trump will struggle with his advisors & his own cowardice.</p>— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1072154351672659969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Maybe it'll come to this, who knows?

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Tibs said:
These are tumultuous times indeed. Let's pray Trump holds it together before he does something really stupid.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump is more afraid of what Putin could do to him & his image than Mueller or anything else. The extremes he may go to to escape that is why he was an unacceptable risk, not merely unfit.</p>— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1072150835331821568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Leaders who care only for themselves—not a global, national or party interest—are intrinsically dangerous and unstable. They are capable of shocking actions. Putin and Trump are both in this category.</p>— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1072153509297078273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I fear an outbreak of violence that both men feel will suit their desperate domestic situations. Putin has done it many times before. Trump will struggle with his advisors & his own cowardice.</p>— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1072154351672659969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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IndySteel said:
It’s the unhinged fake news msm that is losing their **** because for two years they’ve been power vomiting Russian collusion and they’ve got.....nothing.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/12/10/nolte-after-russia-collusion-implodes-media-want-trump-impeached-over-just-sex/
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That article sums it up and well.

Russian collusion theories are all but dead. Considering Podesta hatched the idea on election night November 2016 (translation: It was concocted out of thin air), it's not a surprise it's come to a grinding halt and Van Jones was correct. It's a nothing burger. Always was. Just sad that it has cost America and her taxpayers so much (and more than $$).

But, as has been factually noted, the radical, unhinged, dangerous Left has said since the night of the election, we will impeach him. It won't stop. It will now be about sex. Or ice cream scoops.

Democrats are no longer a party. They are the progressive movement, close to communism. Like a virus seeks a host, Progressivism needs a host government. Like Communism needs host governments. Like the virus, it fights off opposition. It kills it in fact. It's all consuming. Losing is no longer an option. "All for the party." Man is a higher power than God, and man can and will be trampled if he stands in the way of the party. The Left is now a religious cult.

We've slowly seen the evolution over decades. It took a unique turn in 2000 with the Gore loss and the hanging chads. For the first time we saw the Left refuse to abide by the outcome. Losing was no longer an option. That's why we see so many recounts. So many rigged machines. Boxes full of hidden ballots. The import of illegal aliens to vote. The virus must remain.

Losing has just gotten more important to the Left now. We saw it in November 2016. They no longer hide their intent. The other party won, we will impeach. Period. Wouldn't have mattered if Jerry Falwell or Pope Ignatius had been elected. Simply wouldn't. They just got their worst nightmare however. Republicans have bowed to the media and liberal onslaught for decades. Trump won't. So it's downright nasty.

But don't think for a minute this ends. It doesn't end after the Russian collusion. It doesn't end after the next made up story. It won't end after Trump wins a 2nd term. It will be there in the next confirmation hearing of a judge. It will be there in the lower courts. It will be there at the state and local official elected levels. The virus will continue to attempt to destroy the host. Opposition cannot remain. Dissent isn't tolerated.

The players, the names, the faces are irrelevant. Trump, in all honesty, is just an effigy. It's bigger than him.
 
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yep, its a witch hunt
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Yep, her maiden porn name is Stormy Danielmirnoff-Popov, birth name Stephania Kusnetsov.
 
Tibs knows in his heart of hearts The Mueller investigation will amount to a popcorn fart in a wind storm.
 
If Tibs has a dog that poor thing has been getting kicked every night for the past two years.
 
Tibs said:
It's sad to see a sitting president up to his neck in this much trouble
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Tibs said:
What’s there to like about a President in legal peril, facing indíctments and possibly impeachment?
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And then just a few short posts later you post memes about him getting arrested and have said so many times that he's a threat to American democracy and will get his just due (as well as his followers, whatever that means). Seriously dude, are you bi-polar or something? You're all over the place.
 
The question no Trump supporter can answer in simple, understandable terms, so even Indy, Stewey & Confluence can understand.

Part 1. If there was nothing wrong with working with Russians during the campaign, why did all 16 Trump aides choose to lie about it?


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Part 2. If there was nothing wrong with working with Russians during the campaign, why has Trump chosen to constantly lie about it, around the clock, seven days a week, two years straight?

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5x Bonus Points: don't include Hillary, Obama or Democrats in your answer!
 
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Tibs said:
The question no Trump supporter can answer in simple, understandable terms, so even Indy, Stewey & Confluence can understand.

Part 1. If there was nothing wrong with working with Russians during the campaign, why did all 16 Trump aides choose to lie about it?


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Part 2. If there was nothing wrong with working with Russians during the campaign, why has Trump chosen to constantly lie about it, around the clock, seven days a week, two years straight?

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5x Bonus Points: don't include Hillary, Obama or Democrats in your answer!
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Looks like Mueller and $50M cannot figure out your little puzzle.

Just wait, it will come soon. But just in case it is a while, somebody should scream about 2 yr old campaign finance -- look, pornstar -- violations, lol

The manufactured faux rage is awesome.

A 2 year nothingburger stacked high with Hungarian cheese and sour grapes.

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Confluence said:
Looks like Mueller and $50M cannot figure out your little puzzle. Just wait, it will come soon. But just in case it is a while, somebody should scream about 2 yr old campaign finance -- look, pornstar -- violations, lol The manufactured faux rage is awesome.
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So you've got nothing. Moving on, next.
 
Just so I am clear, are campaigns and transition teams not allowed contact with foreign governments?

"Contact with Russians" is a pretty dubious description. I mean, during transition, the incoming guys talk to a lot of foreign governments, so "Contact with Russians" is misleading at least. Did they contact any other governments during transition? If so, CNN may want to mention that. I mean, I know why they didn't, but that is another discussion for another time I guess.

I don't know if campaigns contact foreign governments. Honestly. For my part, I can see it both ways. If it is unusual that they do, then maybe it is odd but not necessarily nefarious.

While I still think they are gonna attempt to hang Trump on campaign finance as part of the hooker payoffs, I think they are going to have a hard time finding collusion and making what, if anything, that they do find--stick.

I have reached the point of impeach or don't impeach, indict or don't indict, but **** or get off the pot, because the country needs to move forward one way or the other. Time for this **** to end.
 
Sarge said:
Just so I am clear, are campaigns and transition teams not allowed contact with foreign governments?
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Valid point, but the question remains, why did so many people go out of their way to blatantly lie about it? If indeed there was nothing fishy going on...nothing to hide from the American people, Congress and federal authorities.
 
I believe most of the country is sick of this witch hunt, with the exception of the MSM, which has realized windfall profits from it's ratings, and the blithering idiots that fall for the bait.

Unfortunately, many don't realize how damaging this has been for our Republic. It has fundamentally changed the political landscape in Washington, and has made public service a toxic environment. Truth has become another casualty. These next two years will divide the country even more. I am not optimistic.

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Tibs said:
Valid point, but the question remains, why did so many people go out of their way to blatantly lie about it? If indeed there was nothing fishy going on...nothing to hide from the American people, Congress and federal authorities.
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Because people in Washington lie all of the time. Obama lied when he said you can keep your insurance policy. Comey lied. Loretta Lynch lied about the tarmac meeting. Bill Clinton didn't have sex with that woman. It is all about creating talking points, and sticking with them, even though they may not true.

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Tibs said:
Valid point, but the question remains, why did so many people go out of their way to blatantly lie about it? If indeed there was nothing fishy going on...nothing to hide from the American people, Congress and federal authorities.
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Obviously I can't answer that, and neither can anyone else, despite the breathless "analysis" going on all over cable news.

As far as blatantly lying, I really wish that the media would "fact check" the rest of America's politicians the way they go after Trump. If they did, most people would be an awful lot like me and not trust any of them.

I mean, we all know politicians lie to the American people on the daily. Presidents, representatives, senators, mayors, council-people. All of them. They are never held to account. But by Jesus, you lie to congress, you are going to jail? Just another double standard for the ruling class, that also doesn't have to use the same health care as the peasants and strangely enough, don't have to follow the same gun laws as the peasants either. And people are actually ok with it. Blows my mind.
 
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