Chargers vs Broncos

[Superman]

how's that working out for you in the Dynasty League, ed?

and I don't see how Rivers gets any zip on the ball.

 

[jitter77]

I still don't know how Manning does it. His passes look horrible with no velocity, but yet they get there. Although the one deep td last week was a pretty looking ball..

 

[EdReed4Prez]

I dunno. I'm doing **** in both of my leagues. I lose well.

 

[Superman]

right now, your favorite Superman is beating your ***
Hillman, Sanders and Gates

 

[Idioteque]

Sanders is a route runner. He always needed to be a slot WR and that was the plan when they had Brown and Wallace outside, but Sanders was constantly injured. Last year was his first real injury free year and with Wallace gone and Wheaton injured, and Cotchery being slow as hell, Sanders had to play outside.

Yes but he's got no physicality as a route runner. He's not going to use his body to create space; he needs the open space that Denver's offense provides.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Yes but he's got no physicality as a route runner. He's not going to use his body to create space; he needs the open space that Denver's offense provides.

you don't need physicality if you run good routes. A well run route and a timing throw creates the separation. Sanders came out of the SMU run-n-shoot offense where sharp routes and quick throws are everything.

Ben is not a timing QB and that hurt Sanders too. Being the 3rd most dangerous option also helps Sanders. It makes him look better than he is, but he was still a good player in the Steelers, just injured, then misused, and also unfocused.

 

[Idioteque]

you don't need physicality if you run good routes

and play with Peyton Manning. This is why Lance Moore is a turd without Brees pinpointing wide-open slants.

A well run route and a timing throw creates the separation. Sanders came out of the SMU run-n-shoot offense where sharp routes and quick throws are everything.

Ben is not a timing QB and that hurt Sanders too. Being the 3rd most dangerous option also helps Sanders. It makes him look better than he is, but he was still a good player in the Steelers, just injured, then misused, and also unfocused.

I agree. He's one of those "I need space and timing and accuracy and tailored usage or I'm mediocre" guys. I prefer guys who can make their own hay, not guys who need to be paired with a pinpointing HOF QB and surrounded by All-Pro receivers.

He's not as god-awful as he was with us, but not nearly as good as he looks right now. Plop him into 30 NFL lineups and he's an average receiver IMO.

 

[Wingman]

you don't need physicality if you run good routes. A well run route and a timing throw creates the separation. Sanders came out of the SMU run-n-shoot offense where sharp routes and quick throws are everything.

Ben is not a timing QB and that hurt Sanders too. Being the 3rd most dangerous option also helps Sanders. It makes him look better than he is, but he was still a good player in the Steelers, just injured, then misused, and also unfocused.

But other than that he was ok

 

[TDX27]

There is no doubt Manning makes his receivers look much better than they are - especially the number 2, 3 and 4 guy as they will almost always have single coverage.

 

[deljzc]

There is no doubt Manning makes his receivers look much better than they are - especially the number 2, 3 and 4 guy as they will almost always have single coverage.

That's kind of the definition of a good quarterback, right?

I mean if our guy isn't doing that, it's not the WR's fault, it's Ben's.

 

[TDX27]

You could say that. But, if Ben wasn't who he was, the WR's on our team wouldn't be doing as well as they have. Hines would have never put up the numbers he did being on a run first team. Ben definitely elevates the play of most around him - not all but most.

 

[t-man]

That's kind of the definition of a good quarterback, right?

I mean if our guy isn't doing that, it's not the WR's fault, it's Ben's.

You do realize a guy by the name of Antonio Brown is currently leading the NFL in receiving yards, right? (Technically it's Demaius Thomas, but that's COUNTING his game last night, and AB hasn't played this weekend yet). So yeah, Ben can get the ball there just fine.

Joe

 

[JJ_Steel]

You do realize a guy by the name of Antonio Brown is currently leading the NFL in receiving yards, right? (Technically it's Demaius Thomas, but that's COUNTING his game last night, and AB hasn't played this weekend yet). So yeah, Ben can get the ball there just fine.

Joe

The Broncos and Steelers have both played 7 games, the Broncos have already had a bye. Thomas is leading the league in yardage not Brown.

 

[t-man]

The Broncos and Steelers have both played 7 games, the Broncos have already had a bye. Thomas is leading the league in yardage not Brown.

Ok, so he has 48 more yards with God throwing him the ball. I think our qb is doing ok.

Joe

 

[SteelerSask2]

my answer to the Manning nut hugging is the same as every year. Wait till he plays someone who can pressure and cover.

 

[Vader]

I don't understand why people have to put down Manning to build up Ben. Why can't both stand on their own merit? Manning is a great QB and can make an average team very good. Ben is not the QB that Manning is but that's ok because 99.9% of other QBs aren't either. Montana may have been a better QB than Bradshaw. I don't really care. Both were damn good QBs but they are both different. The Steelers can win and have won SBs with Ben. He needs a better defense and better WRs. Manning can do more with less but he hasn't won 2 SBs yet. But in today's NFL I'll take either over most of the other QBs in the league.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I don't understand why people have to put down Manning to build up Ben. Why can't both stand on their own merit? Manning is a great QB and can make an average team very good. Ben is not the QB that Manning is but that's ok because 99.9% of other QBs aren't either. Montana may have been a better QB than Bradshaw. I don't really care. Both were damn good QBs but they are both different. The Steelers can win and have won SBs with Ben. He needs a better defense and better WRs. Manning can do more with less but he hasn't won 2 SBs yet. But in today's NFL I'll take either over most of the other QBs in the league.

FULLY agree, each is his own, with merit. Some where along the line, this STEELERS team became bad. NOT the QB position. That has been a strong point. Won two Super Bowls, played in three............. How many has Bret Favre been in, and won? What about Phillip Rivers? You get my drift. Hall of Fame first vote. If not, then there is a travisty.



Salute the nation

 

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

I don't understand why people have to put down Manning to build up Ben...

Props for calling him "Manning" (without the need to include his first name).

Simms must have said "Peyton Manning" 200 times during the telecast. "Manning" will suffice.

The Broncos are playing. So it's not Eli, Danieal, Bradley, Chelsea, etc.

Imagine how ridiculous it would have sounded if Merlin Olsen said "Terry Bradshaw" every time Bradshaw made a good play:

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Imagine how ridiculous it would have sounded if Merlin Olsen said "Terry Bradshaw" every time Bradshaw made a good play:

Or John Madden saying "Brett Favre".

 

[Ghost of Frenchy Fuqua]

Good one.

Or just about everyone saying "Tom Brady."

 

[JJ_Steel]

Ok, so he has 48 more yards with God throwing him the ball. I think our qb is doing ok.

Joe

Problem is Manning has many other receivers putting up monster numbers we have ONE and Ben does not throw TD passes, manning leads him 22-10 in that stat.