Colbert or Tomlin whoever has the final say needs to go

[Supersteeler]

You've seen me do this, too, right? Any examples of THIS?

Holy ****, you are the best! LOL! This game is awesome! Nice try to turn Politician Schtick back on me. I have already laid down the Gauntlet to you sir. Until you find my proof I will not search for any of your required proof.

 

[Supersteeler]

I answered your question in the previous post.

You've been dodging mine since Page One.

I did not see any of the exact statements that you are required to find. You have more searching to do.

 

[Idioteque]

Holy ****, you are the best! LOL! This game is awesome! Nice try to turn Politician Schtick back on me. I have already laid down the Gauntlet to you sir. Until you find my proof I will not search for any of your required proof.

You know I asked you on the first page of this thread, right? Hell, I've asked you more than once to back up your whining with ANY support at all and you never have.

Again, I've never asked you for direct quoting, though you seem to think I have. Just some examples. Hell, just one.

 

[Supersteeler]

You know I asked you on the first page of this thread, right? Hell, I've asked you more than once to back up your whining with ANY support at all and you never have.

Again, I've never asked you for direct quoting, though you seem to think I have. Just some examples. Hell, just one.

Neither have you. I'm waiting. Man you are on to something here. It's WAY more fun to demand things from people instead of being on the other end. No wonder you kept this routine up for so long. Tick...tick.....tick.

I need work on being more obtuse but I am gonna practice. People won't be able to tell our posts apart before long!

 

[antdrewjosh]

To each his own, but I just don't see how you could be on board with this, unless you're using Pro Bowls as your measuring stick. He's worse against the run and worse against the pass. I guess you could say Earl Holmes was almost as good as Farrior, too.

No im just not pretending that Farrior was a god now. I remember him getting beat by TEs engulfed by lineman sometimes too.

 

[blitzburghv5]

None of those coaches were handed a Super Bowl winning team, franchise QB and HOH DC. Imagine if the poor Tomlin was handed those rosters, no one would remember his name today he would be a WR coach somewhere.

You keep stupidly pumping up Tomlin and saying I am wrong. Unfortunately for you you are wrong. The record speaks for itself, no playoff wins in 4 years, getting humiliated by Tebow and getting hammered by the Rats at home is his legacy. He is Barry Switzer 2.0, enjoy the continued mediocrity, losing to the horrible dregs every year and the tired blathering he does instead of actually coaching.

Chicago has talent..it has a prominent WR tandem in Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffries, a viable TE in Martellus Bennett ..a pro bowl back in Forte.....Lovie had that team in the mix for postseason almost every year...and then, they went another direction with Marc...and now look at em. You dont wanna admit you and a few other clowns in here see what you want and no one outside of your Play-Doh gallery sees things the same way you do. Nobody with substantial football knowledge agrees with your notion that Tomlin sucks as a coach..thats only YOU. Management doesnt, sports media analysts/columnists dont. If im wrong, give me a name of a credentialed football mind that agrees with you......Just one name bro.... Frankly i dont think you know wtf youre talkin about. SO as someone stated once before, youre just a ****** hater..you hate/discredit his successes and bask in his failures, which constitutes a loser mindset.

You will keep towin the same line to try and convince me hes a horrible coach, when the fact is youre only tryin to convince yourself. Really, i dont see why you even come to the forum or watch such a pathetic team. Please, tell me what good is this team to you or any of us for that matter if the leader sucks...the QB sucks...the defense sucks..ownership sucks.......is there anything you like about this franchise or are you just a beacon of **** throwin ?

 

[ark steel]

Timmons is almost as good as Farrior and better then Larry Foote.

Man, this is ridiculous over-the-top praise. How were you able to type this with your hands full of Lawrence's ****?

 

[antdrewjosh]

Man, this is ridiculous over-the-top praise. How were you able to type this with your hands full of Lawrence's ****?

Im good at multi-tasking...

 

[Idioteque]

No im just not pretending that Farrior was a god now. I remember him getting beat by TEs engulfed by lineman sometimes too.

Farrior was a sheer stud at a position Timmons still hasn't mastered. I don't recall his play dropping off until he hit his mid-30s; before then he was fantastic in my book. To say he was just a smidge better than Timmons is.. well, it's Steeler Nation, that's for sure.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Farrior is better I said that. Their stats are quite similar. Like someone else said Farrior had much more talent in front of him.

 

[Superman]

to be fair, Timmons has played multiple LB positions throughout his career, sometimes even during the same game. is it really worth debating if he's "ALMOST" as good as someone else?

nevermind. of course it is.

 

[ark steel]

to be fair, Timmons has played multiple LB positions throughout his career, sometimes even during the same game. is it really worth debating if he's "ALMOST" as good as someone else?

nevermind. of course it is.

Fuckhead, you don't even know how many days there are in a week until someone explains it to you.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Its Steeler Nation of course it is..

 

[Idioteque]

to be fair, Timmons has played multiple LB positions throughout his career, sometimes even during the same game. is it really worth debating if he's "ALMOST" as good as someone else?

nevermind. of course it is.

Mainly due to the fact he can't seem to master them. He failed at ROLB, and has failed at the Buck. That's one of the reasons we now play musical chairs at ILB.

I piped up on this because IMO Farrior was a phenomenal player and Timmons is a decent one.

 

[Idioteque]

Its Steeler Nation of course it is..

Yep. It's where we brush off the league's best roster from 2004-08 by saying things like, "Eh, Timmons is almost the same as Farrior and our RG is better now. So we're golden."

 

[Superman]

Mainly due to the fact he can't seem to master them. He failed at ROLB, and has failed at the Buck. That's one of the reasons we now play musical chairs at ILB.

I piped up on this because IMO Farrior was a phenomenal player and Timmons is a decent one.

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR it could very well be that the talent around him isnt up to snuff.
or are you going to attempt to convince me that the blistering combination of Spence and Williams is on par with Farrior?

 

[Superman]

and again, his goddamn failure at ROLB coincided with the absolute dominance and emergence of one Deebo.
or are you on board with sitting Deebo for Timmons?

 

[Superman]

Fuckhead, you don't even know how many days there are in a week until someone explains it to you.

8 is enough

 

[ark steel]

8 is enough

it was good enough for the Beatles.

 

[Superman]

and Dick Van Patten

 

[Idioteque]

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR it could very well be that the talent around him isnt up to snuff.
or are you going to attempt to convince me that the blistering combination of Spence and Williams is on par with Farrior?

So now, the stance is "Timmons WOULD be almost as good as Farrior if he had better players around him"? Besides, andrew just made clear that Farrior ****** up a LOT at ILB. So the jump in surrounding talent might not be that big.

Even then, I can't buy that. Timmons' issues aren't very closely related to what the other guys are doing. He gets washed out of plays too often and is a joke in man coverage. And his struggles at Buck - when we desperately need him to step up at Buck - are well publicized.

and again, his goddamn failure at ROLB coincided with the absolute dominance and emergence of one Deebo.
or are you on board with sitting Deebo for Timmons?

There's been an OLB spot open for the taking for much of Timmons' career. Our pass rush has been awful for several years now, yet Timmons has never been put outside. So I can't buy that Timmons would be an awesome OLB if not for Harrison being so great in 2007.

Besides.. on film, do you truly see him as an edge rusher? Does he remind you of Justin Houston and Julius Peppers? Different skill set altogether.

 

[Superman]

no... no one is saying that Timmons WOULD be almost as good. In fact, no one has said anything of the kind.
someone said Timmons is almost as good as Farrior.
which was as blasphemous to you as saying Batman is almost as good as Spiderman.

is ******* up a lot the exact definition of being blocked? really?

There's been an OLB spot open for the taking for much of Timmons' career.

bench Deebo or Woodley? which? I mean, Woodley was drafted the same year... is it possible MAYBE that Deebo picked up on the defense more than a rookie did?

and, still, are you really saying that they should have sat Deebo solely because they drafted Timmons?
if the coaching staff can't admit a mistake, why did they play Deebo instead of Timmons?

I believe it was pointed out previously that the level of talent Farrior had around him was superior to the talent Timmons had. Surely you can't argue against that. Or are you really suggesting ... nay, emphatically stating beyond the shadow of a doubt that the hulking combination of Spence/Williams is equal to that of Farrior?

is it possible, though unlikely, that a combination of Deebo, Timmons, Farrior and Woodley was better than the combination of Timmons, (insert virtually anyone here), Farrior, Woodley?

 

[antdrewjosh]

Lol now i said ****** up alot.... Where did I say that??? I said in his tenure here I remember Farrior getting beat and engulfed sometimes too. How in the hell does that equate to ****** up alot?? Farrior is the better player. No one is disputing that or said anything different. I said Timmons is almost as good as Farrior and better then Foote. When asked to compare talent on the team vs 2006.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Forget talent at his fellow ILB position the talent in front of Farrior was way better. Hampton Smith and Kiesel is what im talking about.

 

[Idioteque]

no... no one is saying that Timmons WOULD be almost as good. In fact, no one has said anything of the kind.

Do you not recall this exchange on this very page?

Mainly due to the fact he can't seem to master them. He failed at ROLB, and has failed at the Buck. That's one of the reasons we now play musical chairs at ILB.

I piped up on this because IMO Farrior was a phenomenal player and Timmons is a decent one.

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR it could very well be that the talent around him isnt up to snuff

Sounds to me like you used supporting casts as an excuse as to why Timmons isn't quite on Farrior's level.

someone said Timmons is almost as good as Farrior.
which was as blasphemous to you as saying Batman is almost as good as Spiderman.

If someone said "Heyward is almost as good as Aaron Smith" would you not jump in? Farrior was a phenomenal two-way player

is ******* up a lot the exact definition of being blocked? really?

And that's Timmons' only flaw? Getting blocked too much?

Even if that were his only issue, he's washed out far too often to be mentioned within 4-5 sentences of James Badass Farrior. But there's more.

bench Deebo or Woodley? which? I mean, Woodley was drafted the same year... is it possible MAYBE that Deebo picked up on the defense more than a rookie did?

Woodley didn't start a single game as a rookie; a rapdily declining Haggans did. Timmons also failed to beat him out. The next year, Timmons failed to beat out Woodley - a lower draft pick - for the LOLB job. Since then, we've had numerous OLB openings and opportunities, and Timmons has been kept inside.

and, still, are you really saying that they should have sat Deebo solely because they drafted Timmons?

When did I say or insinuate that?

if the coaching staff can't admit a mistake

or that?

, why did they play Deebo instead of Timmons?

Because Deebo was 500,000,000x better for the job. My beef has never been with starting Harrison over Timmons. I questioned the pick because I thought Timmons was a good-not-great talent. I did a 180 and got really, really excited about the guy once he moved inside and flashed great play there. I'm now very "m'eh" on Timmons because I think he's not that good, but is paid (and beloved) like he is.

It really is that simple, I promise. I harbor no deep-seeded hatred for Mike Tomlin nor any black man. I don't assume a deep Steeler conspiracy. I just don't think the guy is all that good.

I believe it was pointed out previously that the level of talent Farrior had around him was superior to the talent Timmons had. Surely you can't argue against that. Or are you really suggesting ... nay, emphatically stating beyond the shadow of a doubt that the hulking combination of Spence/Williams is equal to that of Farrior?

is it possible, though unlikely, that a combination of Deebo, Timmons, Farrior and Woodley was better than the combination of Timmons, (insert virtually anyone here), Farrior, Woodley?

I'm having trouble following all of the excuse-making here. Does the supporting cast issue mean Timmons deserves more slack, or he's almost as good as Farrior, or what?