Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

Oh no, there is data out there and and you could try to prove that none of the excess mortality is due to vaccine deaths.

You can't, so you won't.

And the data is about as reliable as Sasquatch sightings.

 

[Troglodyte]

I dunno, my doctors haven't even suggested I get the vaccine and I let them care for me.

But the health system they are a part of provide the vaccine, don’t they?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

And the data is about as reliable as Sasquatch sightings.

Oh it's there. As I said, you just don't want to dig. Afraid what you know you'll find.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

But the health system they are a part of provide the vaccine, don’t they?

So does Walgreens and my local church. Your view that "all" medical personnel support and push the vaccines isn't based on actuality.

 

[Troglodyte]

Oh it's there. As I said, you just don't want to dig. Afraid what you know you'll find.

I’ll just wait.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I’ll just wait.

Son. I challenged you to go get the data.

Work.

(you'll wait = I know I'll lose)

 

[Troglodyte]

Son. I challenged you to go get the data.

Work.

(you'll wait = I know I'll lose)

Go tell it to the Walgreens and local church, save some lives.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Just some fun coinky dinks

John Thiessen: 60-year-old quadruple-vaxxed Canadian homeless advocate dies eight days after fourth mRNA injection - The COVID Blog®

TheCOVIDBlog.com December 8, 2022 (updated 6:54 p.m. Pacific) KELOWNA, BRITISH COLUMBIA — A 60-year-old seemingly good human being is dead, but not before the injections

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Megha Thakur: Canadian University ends vaccine mandate after two students, including a TikTok star, die unexpectedly; car accident cause of death is a lie - The COVID Blog®

TheCOVIDBlog.com December 2, 2022 (updated 3:35 p.m. Pacific) LONDON, ONTARIO — Two Canadian college students are dead; and mainstream media are doing their best to

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Michael Gerson: 58-year-old vaxx zealot Washington Post writer who beat kidney cancer 10 years ago, dies of hyper-aggressive, post-injection kidney cancer - The COVID Blog®

TheCOVIDBlog.com November 23, 2022 (updated 7:35 p.m. Pacific) WASHINGTON, D.C. — Last month in an article about the DCIS (“cancer”) and depression RICO rackets, we

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[Tim Steelersfan]

Go tell it to the Walgreens and local church, save some lives.

Do the work Zealot. Prove it wrong. Explain the 13%-15% excess mortality when Covid is but a scant contributor. Was it the lockdowns? You lose. Was it the vaccines? You lose.

Check

Mate

We...wait.

 

[Sarge]

And there’s no connection to the vaccine.

None that they’ve told you about. I think excess deaths have been enough that people should be asking questions and demanding answers. Problem is, most people don’t care until it happens to them.

 

[madinsomniac]

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Once, shortly after it leaked that the Obama administration was using universal spying methods on the us population without their knowledge, I ran into two people talking in a hotel lobby about a third… the woman made some comment about him being a crazy conspiracy theorist about the government spying on us… and the dude looks up at the news report and says something like , kind of looks like he was right after all…

 

[Badcat]

The second World Cup journalist has died. Hmmm.

Qatari journalist ‘dies suddenly’ at World Cup, shortly after Grant Wahl’s death

A Qatari photographer has “died suddenly” while covering the World Cup – the second journalist to lose his life at the global event following influential US soccer writer Grant Wahl’s death.…

nypost.com

This reminds me of Avengers Infinity War where half the population turns to ashes and dies suddenly, except in our metaverse there are no attempts to explain the sudden deaths.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Dr. Robert Malone reinstated to Twitter.

 

[Troglodyte]

Do the work Zealot. Prove it wrong. Explain the 13%-15% excess mortality when Covid is but a scant contributor. Was it the lockdowns? You lose. Was it the vaccines? You lose.

Check

Mate

We...wait.

Again, you literally just posted an article saying that 2/3rds were indeed Covid deaths. Scant? Talk about losing!

 

[Superman]

Go tell it to the Walgreens and local church, save some lives.

so, if you're so science based, do tell why you only believe the docs who agree with your opinion.
i'm eager to know why you so casually dismiss the reports and opinions of docs who do not agree with the vaccine.

(and before you ask, no, I will not regurgitate the posts from 599 pages ago showing you which docs disagree)

 

[Troglodyte]

Dr. Robert Malone reinstated to Twitter.

270 to 1

An Open Letter to Spotify

An Open Letter to Spotify: A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy On Dec. 31, 2021, the Joe Rogan Experience (JRE), a Spotify-exclusive podca…

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[Troglodyte]

so, if you're so science based, do tell why you only believe the docs who agree with your opinion.
i'm eager to know why you so casually dismiss the reports and opinions of docs who do not agree with the vaccine.

(and before you ask, no, I will not regurgitate the posts from 599 pages ago showing you which docs disagree)

Because they are outnumbered 270 to 1

An Open Letter to Spotify

An Open Letter to Spotify: A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy On Dec. 31, 2021, the Joe Rogan Experience (JRE), a Spotify-exclusive podca…

spotifyopenletter.wordpress.com

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Again, you literally just posted an article saying that 2/3rds were indeed Covid deaths. Scant? Talk about losing!

Critical thinking and objectivity Floggy. Try it.

The article said, specifically:

An extra 15,400 people died in the first eight months of the year, according to new analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) data by the Actuaries Institute, with around one-third of those having no link to Covid.

So 2/3rds of the 15,400 extra deaths had a "link" to Covid. Hmmm. What exactly does a "link to Covid" actually mean? He died in a motorcycle crash but tested positive for Covid? Notice the article does not say two thirds died due to Covid. Or because of Covid. A link to Covid. Meaning, some portion of that 2/3rds didn't die because of Covid.

Further, you missed this in the article because you stopped reading:

Mortality up 13 per cent

The latest mortality data released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics last month found that there had been 128,797 deaths from January 1 to August 31, which was 17 per cent higher than the historical average.

That equates to an extra 18,671 deaths. Of those, only 7727 were attributed to Covid – or 41 per cent – leaving 10,944 non-Covid excess deaths.

The actuary's numbers are different than the Australian Bureau of Stats. They explain why...if you...read.

17% more deaths than usual this year.
59% of them aren't Covid.

And:

Deaths from respiratory disease have been significantly lower than expected throughout the pandemic – except for the short and early flu season this year – while things like cancer, diabetes, heart disease and stroke as a group have been the largest contributor to non-Covid excess deaths in 2021 and 2022.

Huh? One of the largest contributors to extra deaths is heart disease and strokes? What could possibly cause those? The vaccines with a warning label on them about myocarditis and generally being bad for your heart?

Ms Cutter said it was “not clear what might be driving this". Ummm....[raises hand]...I know, I know!

You suck at this.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

270 to 1

An Open Letter to Spotify

An Open Letter to Spotify: A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy On Dec. 31, 2021, the Joe Rogan Experience (JRE), a Spotify-exclusive podca…

spotifyopenletter.wordpress.com

We know you support censorship and the abolishment of free speech and would prefer to live in Russia or China.

We don't.

The inventor of mRNA vaccines should be able to be heard. Rightfully so. As you and your misinformation are allowed that right here and elsewhere.

 

[oneforthebus]

Just some fun coinky dinks

John Thiessen: 60-year-old quadruple-vaxxed Canadian homeless advocate dies eight days after fourth mRNA injection - The COVID Blog®

TheCOVIDBlog.com December 8, 2022 (updated 6:54 p.m. Pacific) KELOWNA, BRITISH COLUMBIA — A 60-year-old seemingly good human being is dead, but not before the injections

thecovidblog.com

Megha Thakur: Canadian University ends vaccine mandate after two students, including a TikTok star, die unexpectedly; car accident cause of death is a lie - The COVID Blog®

TheCOVIDBlog.com December 2, 2022 (updated 3:35 p.m. Pacific) LONDON, ONTARIO — Two Canadian college students are dead; and mainstream media are doing their best to

thecovidblog.com

Michael Gerson: 58-year-old vaxx zealot Washington Post writer who beat kidney cancer 10 years ago, dies of hyper-aggressive, post-injection kidney cancer - The COVID Blog®

TheCOVIDBlog.com November 23, 2022 (updated 7:35 p.m. Pacific) WASHINGTON, D.C. — Last month in an article about the DCIS (“cancer”) and depression RICO rackets, we

thecovidblog.com

These posts do not help your credibility Tim. A guy with diabetes, a congenital heart condition and previous history of heart attack dies..must be the vaccine! A woman reportedly dies in a car accident…it’s a lie! Must be the vaccine! A person with a history of kidney cancer dies from a return of kidney cancer…no one has ever died from a returning cancer before, must be the vaccine!

According to this blog the vaccines cause heart attacks, cancer, suicides…it can kill people days, weeks, months or even years after getting the shot. That is some powerful little vaccine! Yet millions of sick elderly people have gotten it and survived. Oh I mean until they die months or years later and then it’s because of the vaccines! There is nothing at all scientific about these stories, yes they very well can be coincidences because thousands of people die of all sorts of things every day and the majority of people are vaccinated. I could just as easily start a blog of unvaccinated people dying of cancer, suicide and car accidents and claim they actually all died from being unvaccinated. I could start a blog of people who ate pasta and died 2 years later from various causes and claim eating pasta kills people. It would make just as much sense as this blog does.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

We know you support censorship and the abolishment of free speech and would prefer to live in Russia or China.

We don't.

The inventor of mRNA vaccines should be able to be heard. Rightfully so. As you and your misinformation are allowed that right here and elsewhere.

Where does tibs live again?

 

[ZonaBurgh]

These posts do not help your credibility Tim. A guy with diabetes, a congenital heart condition and previous history of heart attack dies..must be the vaccine! A woman reportedly dies in a car accident…it’s a lie! Must be the vaccine! A person with a history of kidney cancer dies from a return of kidney cancer…no one has ever died from a returning cancer before, must be the vaccine!

According to this blog the vaccines cause heart attacks, cancer, suicides…it can kill people days, weeks, months or even years after getting the shot. That is some powerful little vaccine! Yet millions of sick elderly people have gotten it and survived. Oh I mean until they die months or years later and then it’s because of the vaccines! There is nothing at all scientific about these stories, yes they very well can be coincidences because thousands of people die of all sorts of things every day and the majority of people are vaccinated. I could just as easily start a blog of unvaccinated people dying of cancer, suicide and car accidents and claim they actually all died from being unvaccinated. I could start a blog of people who ate pasta and died 2 years later from various causes and claim eating pasta kills people. It would make just as much sense as this blog does.

Tim and Trog are at the opposite ends of the spectrum in order to prove their point, in my opinion at least.

But I do agree with the post from Sarge above, there are far too many coincidences to be ignored. To do otherwise will only lead to further speculation.
Some of Tim's posts appear credible, others could be questioned. With Trog you just get flat out denial while dancing and deflecting, trying to stay relevant.

I'm not sure this can stay buried forever, as I do believe there have been people damaged by this vaccine, not as many as Tim might imply, but certainly more than the near zero cases that Trog seems to support. If and when that happens, lawyers are going to have a field day, and rightfully so,

 

[oneforthebus]

Data shows an increased risk of death and cardiac issues in people who’ve been infected with Covid. Vaccination reduces that increase in studies, but only very slightly. It’s likely the excess deaths are from Covid, not the vaccines. Severe reactions to the vaccine exist but they are rare. https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...he-risk-increases-each-time-you-catch-it/amp/

Strokes, heart attacks, sudden death: Does America understand the long-term risks of catching COVID? | Fortune

There are early signs that COVID infections and reinfections are leading to a rise in life-threatening conditions, says physician and author Carolyn Barber.

fortune.com

 

[oneforthebus]

That said the vaccines do not prevent infection and do not greatly reduce long term risks of getting it so unless someone is at severe risk from Covid why bother.

 

[Badcat]

Because they are outnumbered 270 to 1

An Open Letter to Spotify

An Open Letter to Spotify: A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy On Dec. 31, 2021, the Joe Rogan Experience (JRE), a Spotify-exclusive podca…

spotifyopenletter.wordpress.com

Well, let's take a look at the credentials of the 270, shall we?

Adriana Sosa, DO: Medical Resident
Alie Ward: Host/Science Correspondent, Ologies Podcast
Anna Stovall, PhD: Associate Medical Writer
April English, MPH: Science Correspondent, Unbiased Science Podcast
Arden Heath: Clinical Microbiology MS Student
AS Richards: Research Fellow, Science Communicator
Autumn Schuster, MSW, LCSW: Licensed Clinical Social Worker, University of California Irvine
Benjamin Steinberg, PsyD: Psychologist
Brianna Soreth, MA: Clinical Research Coordinator
Bridget Scallen, MS: Editor, Unbiased Science Podcast
Cara Grome, MD: Psychiatrist
Cara L Santa Maria, MS, MA: Psychotherapist, PhD Candidate, Cedars Sinai Medical Center
Colleen Trecartin-Frost, DMD: Dentist
Courtney Kennedy, MS, PA-C: Physician Assistant
Crissi Stokes, DHSc: Professor
Daniel Wilson, PhD: Analytical Scientist
Elle Michel, LMFT: Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist

Wow!! Podcasters, Dentists, Marriage counselors?? And that was just to the letter "E". There are more! THIS is what I'm talking about when I speak of objective, critical thinking and doing research. I question things and you do not.