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Draft Grades for All Teams IMO

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I normally don't like draft grades right away by the mainstream media. Almost all their plus grades have to do with drafting high, drafting often or both. But this year in particular some journalists are just slobbering all over bad picks and it bothers me.

Arizona Cardinals
D
There's a reason Nkemdiche fell in the draft so this isn't a "steal". Arizona is on the bubble of collecting one too many bad apples and this is a super talent grab by Arians to try and get over the hump before his QB can't walk anymore. On top of that, I'm not even sure he's a scheme fit with what they do. As for the rest of their draft, it looks like a bunch of "just guys" to me with no one grading out very well on my board and most every other I've seen. I would argue that every one of their picks was a reach from round 3 to round 6. We'll find out if they are smarter than everyone else, but I doubt it.

Atlanta Falcons
C
While I don't agree with everything they've done, they at least are sticking to a plan. Neal was a reach, but it was a position of need and he played under their head coach so he should know exactly what he is getting. They obviously wanted speed in their linebackers and they doubled up trying to find it with their 2nd and 4th round picks. And I think Austin Hooper is a very good 3rd round selection with both value and need. So overall, I think they lost on value, but got need and scheme match pretty good.

Baltimore Ravens
C+
When you have the #8 overall pick and 11 picks overall (including five 4th rounders) it's hard not to find a few players, but I think Ravens fans will look back at this draft unfavorably in a few seasons. I think Stanley is not as great as some are proclaiming and reports are they wanted Tunsil and got spooked by the pre-draft video of him smoking pot. I thought Correa and Kaufusi were two of the most overhyped front-7 players in the draft. As a Steelers fan, I'm not afraid of undersized mid-round Pac-10 and Mountain West pass rushers. There's a lack of toughness in those conferences and in their play that I don't think fits in the AFC North. We'll find out. If anything, what props Baltimore's grade up the most is some of their mid round work. Willie Henry and Kenneth Dixon in my opinion are their two best round 4 selections. And Canady, while having flaws, wasn't bad value in Round 7. Those counteract some head scratchers to me in Chris Moore (who yes, does fit their chuck it and hope for a pass interference offense, but that's about it), Tavon Young (way too undersized) and Alex Lewis (dead end on that one I think). So again, volume doesn't necessarily mean good drafted. But they still got some players we'll likely see in years to come.

Buffalo Bills
B+
Pretty solid picks in every round with an obvious emphasis on the defensive side of the ball as Rex Ryan rebuilds that group in his image (of course that can be a huge waste of resources if you aren't committed to his vision and he leaves). Lawson, Ragland and Washington are big players from big programs that play tough man football. All will contribute a lot of snaps this year and moving forward. As far as Cardale Jones in round 4, I thought that was a bit high for him, but understand the logic. For a Rex Ryan team, in 2-3 years he can build the defense into a top-5 unit and possibly let Jones just play wild football. His size, arm strength and hand certainly fit cold weather Buffalo to a tee. I described Jones as a combination of Tebow and Russell, which I don't think works in the NFL, but Rex Ryan certainly is the type of coach that would accept a simple, college offense if it can protect the ball, be physical and get 20 ppg. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but can't you maybe imagine a tough Rex Ryan team with Jones at the helm in cold, snowy Buffalo come playoff time in January, 2020? It's a long shot, but certainly not out of the realm of possibilities either. As for the rest of the draft, it's good as well. Williams and Listenbee are NFL talents that will at least be given a shot to contribute and make the team as something more than a special teamer.

Carolina Panthers
C-
Odd draft for the Panthers. I have no problem with Butler in round 1. As Steelers fans know, the choices at the back end of round 1 were difficult to judge. Butler is a solid DT prospect even if it's not at a position of need and I have no problems when teams build on strengths if there is value in a draft pick. The next three picks however are a bit less constructive. As can only be described as a shotgun approach to replacing Josh Norman (who they didn't really need to lose), they draft THREE corners back-to-back-to-back in rounds two, three and five leaving only their last pick in round 7 to do anything on offense (a likely 3rd string TE at best). I also think the players they drafted are very average, especially their 2nd round pick in James Bradberry who is very raw and had draft grades mostly in the mid-to-late round range. They better hope one of the corners pans out but even then it's not the most stellar way of drafting in my opinion.

Chicago Bears:
B
This grade is not about Leonard Floyd, who I strongly feel was over drafted and likely a bust if asked to be a pass rusher specialist (which I'm sure Chicago is selling their fans right now). But I can't fault them for all the great picks they had after round 1. I was a huge fan of Cody Whitehair and think he will start sooner rather than later on that group (and further raises the IQ level of a group that needs it). I also think Bullard is a very good pick and think he'll be a nice, versatile down lineman who can line up at DE on run downs or move inside on passing downs. He's a good pick for anyone playing a 4-3 and a particularly good fit for a team needing to generate more pressure. Nothing really wowed me with their three 4th round picks but they are good depth guys on the defense as John Fox and Vic Fangio work on that unit. I love their RB pick Jordan Howard in round 5. That's a steal in my opinion. He's perfect for Chicago and John Fox. And I thought SS DeAndre Houston-Carlson and WR Daniel Braverman were value selections that were higher on many people's' boards. If it wasn't for my feeling on Floyd, this is likely an "A" draft.

Cincinnati Bengals
A-
Hard to find anything wrong with any of their first 5 picks. Nothing special, just stuck to the board and picked the best guy regardless of need. We've talked about William Jackson to death. Tyler Boyd is a solid, if unspectacular WR, that I worry might be maxed out but he works for what they want to do opposite A.J. Green (all they need is solid and steady). I thought Nick Vigil went a round or two too high, but it's not the end of the world. But Andrew Billings and Christian Westerman are flat out steals in mid-rounds. Obviously if Billings isn't healthy, that's another story, but even so it seems okay in Round 4. He still has legs doesn't he? I really like Westerman, so as much as I want to throw mud on this draft, I can't. It's solid and pretty consistent with how Cincinnati has drafted lately. There's a reason they have the best record in the division since 2011 (it's not Marvin Lewis, let's say that). They've drafted a lot of good players.

Cleveland Brows
D
Well, moneyball in the NFL might mean this: 14 draft picks and see who comes out the other end. To me, this draft grade has nothing to do with the shotgun approach they took to this year's draft. I'm sure 3-4 will make it as quality NFL players. But my opinion is they made a franchise killing mistake in passing on Carson Wentz. PInning your future hopes on RGIII and the supposed poor classes of QB's coming down the pike is not "moneyball". It's foolish. So while this draft with Coleman and Ogbah and Nassib and a host of mid-to-late round depth guys is nice for a team that just had yet another regime change (the 4th in this decade) and just gutted their roster yet again to fit a new "scheme", I don't think it will change the fortunes of this franchise one iota. I thought Wentz might have been able to do that.

Dallas Cowboys
B+
How Jaylon Smith comes back from his Sean Spence-type injury will obviously make or break this draft, but this has the potential to be a solid draft even without Smith. While I didn't like Elliott at #4 over Jaylen Ramsey, we all know he's getting 300+ touches this season and will be a uber productive player behind Dallas' offensive line. I thought Maliek Collins and Charles Tapper really add some much needed pieces for Rod Marinelli to work with in that unit. And don't sleep on super athletes Anthony Brown and Kevon Frazier at finding ways to contribute at the next level and being good picks down the line. I don't really like Dak Prescott, but you understand the need at this stage of Romo's career. Overall, it's a good draft that could be really good in Smith ends up being a great WILL for that old Tampa-2 style defense in one or two seasons.

Denver Broncos
B-
Trading up to get a QB in the back half of round 1 is always risky and I was no great fan of Paxton Lynch but they are now committed and he couldn't have asked for a better situation to be thrown into. It's a championship roster who is managed by a GM with surprisingly similar skill set when he was a quarterback. Lynch is no Elway, but the athleticism is similar as is the overly strong arm that still needs to be reigned in and polished. In fact, of all the rookie QB's, Lynch could initially look the best by coming in week 8 or 9 to a struggling Denver team after Sanchez and look halfway decent early. But I don't see much long-term with the pick and still think his accuracy issues will restrict his ceiling. Other than the all-in on a QB their draft was pretty good, getting one of Steeler Nation's favorite players, Justin Simmons, in round 3 (where everyone here wanted him). That's an A pick. I think Davonte Booker fits them as a 3rd down guy and Gotsis (who I think was overdrafted) and McGovern provide a body on each side of the line for depth. Overall it's solid for now but we all know depends on what Lynch looks like and where this team is in 3-4 seasons.

Detroit Lions
B-
It's a meat and potatoes draft for the Lions this year with strong investment (4 out of their first 5 picks) in the trenches. Even their round 4 safety, Miles Killebrew (who I didn't like the tape on) is oversized and a downhill player. If they wanted to get bigger and tougher, they drafted that way. I don't see a lot of wasted effort in their picks and had high ratings on both Decker and Robinson and thought they got good value with both. This isn't a flashy draft or likely one you'll see a lot of on the stat sheet but teams sometimes need to invest in these positions to make all the other flashy guys look good. I thought they might have been able to do a bit better with their 6 picks from round 5 to the end (not a fan of the QB or the long snapper for this team) so we'll see if they get the correct 1-2 hits given the 6 tries they had.

Green Bay Packers
C
Four Pac-10 players highlight an up-and-down draft for the Packers in my opinion. I was not a fan of Kenny Clark in round 1 but they came back and got great value in the very athletic Jason Spriggs in round 2 (although I'm not sure he's an ideal scheme fit). The older Fackrell and the quick Martinez add needed depth to their linebacker group. The team failed to address secondary which might be cause for concern but they stuck to the board instead and I thought Lowry, Davis and Murphy all help depth and have a chance to make the roster. If not for Kenny Clark, this has a chance to be a decent, contributing class of athletes, but Clark is such a meh pick to start things off with so many better choices at that position, you have to penalize them a lot for that selection.

More to come.....
 
Houston Texans
C+
Houston's draft is a conundrum of possibilities at a very hit/miss position in the NFL draft: wide receiver. By investing heavily in two very raw and limited (for now) talents in Will Fuller and Braxton Miller you wonder how this immediately helps a new quarterback in a mental intensive system like Bill O'Brien's. I think it will take a lot of give on O'Brien's part to make all this work this year and I'm not sure he's that type of personality. Nick Martin is a nice interior line piece they pick up in round 2 which should help fill a need but there is learning curve if expected to play center. I don't particularly like the 4th round scat back they picked up in Tyler Ervin and think he needs too much "special offense" to make him work (a la Dri Archer). Their two (and final) 5th rounders provided some special team depth (a safety) and a potential 10-15 snap guy at NT who could develop into more over the next couple of seasons. Overall, not bad, but this is a very long term draft class that will have to develop with both Osweiler and O'Brien in place for likely 2+ years before reaching fruition.

Indianapolis Colts
C-
Four offensive line picks highlight what the Colts were looking to do, but I'm not sold on Ryan Kelly as a special interior offensive line prospect like some. I think he's good and pick #18 seems awfully high for that but this team has a lot of needs thanks in large part to very poor drafting over the last couple of seasons. I'm not sure I'm sold this draft will be any better. The other three offensive line prospects are questionable at best. La'Raven Clark has some gruesome technical flaws that being inside on turf will further exaggerate. Joe Haeg and Austin Blyth are midwest kids that likely don't have the talent to be much more than backups. While Kelly will stick, I have no faith they fixed anything else on their line at all. T.J. Green might have been pushed up boards as the run on CB's left the pickings pretty thin. As a WR turned S turned potential CB he's a project to the Nth degree right now with a very high bust factor (but the talent is there). I like their 4th rounder Hassan Ridgeway and if healthy could be one of their best contributors in this class.

Jacksonville Jaguars
A
Defense, defense and more defense. They picked the two highest guys on my board in Jaylen Ramsey and Miles Jack. If they can get snaps out of both together, they are game changing players and have the potential to be leaders of a special defense down the line. I hope Jack is healthy because he's a great player to watch. At the point they picked him, it's a good pick no matter what. The reward is worth the risk. Don't sleep on the rest of the draft either. They took two shots (Yannick Ngakoue and Tyrone Holmes) that easily pass the explosion tests and I thought Sheldon Day was a nice depth/rotational guy from a big program for the D-line. Overall, when you combine these defensive players onto a roster that is also getting for the first time top pick Dante Fowler from a year ago, you expect exciting things as they come together over the next 2-3 seasons.

Kansas City Chiefs
C+
For not having a first round pick, the Chiefs did okay, stockpiling late selections and taking a shotgun approach in rounds 4-6 (7 selections). I think their first two selections in round 2 and 3 are very solid. I like the idea of Chris Jones, a monster lineman, making that defense even more intimidating when placed next to Dontari Poe. KeiVarae Russell is a solid CB prospect for where they drafted him (when many other teams were reaching on CB's) and I think he has the pedigree and talent to be a good contributor for this part of the draft. I wasn't nearly as excited about the mid-round guys with almost no one a "value" in my book, but with that many chances you'd expect one or two end up okay. For a team that supposedly needed depth help at LB and S, you wonder why none of those 7 mid/late round picks helped those situations.

Los Angeles Rams
B
The Rams took the gamble, trading much of this and next year's drafts for Jared Goff. I like Goff and I'm glad he stays in warmer weather and on the west coast. That's his best scenario for success as opposed to a cold weather city that could expose his lack of ball protection, small hands and questionable passing in bad weather. It's hard to grade a draft that is entirely wrapped up in one player, but that's what it is. After trading back and stockpiling some late rounders for depth, there isn't much to comment on. For so few picks, the Rams took the 2-fer approach on both TE (Higbee and Hemingway) and WR (Cooper and Mike Thomas). All of those players had good draft grades so they aren't reaches. I think as a Rams fan you hope one at each position exceeds expectations and contributes as Goff progresses.

More to come.....
 
i totally agree on Baltimore. The media is pimping them as a great draft but i think it was very mediocre. Sure, if you go pick by pick, they got a bunch of solid guys, but that's the problem with it, they are all just solid guys. I's not afraid of anybody, staring with Stanley.

Tunsil has far more upside than Stanley. They took the safe pick and they did that all draft. They traded back in rd 2 and got all this praise for still landing Correa but they passed on Noah Spence who is more of an impact player.

Round 3 they go Kaufusi, but i'd be more worried about Bullard, Calhoun, or Adolphus Washington who were all available.

How many rookies can make their team anyway? They drafted 11 guys. Do they have room for even half on their supposedly great roster?


When Baltimore was good, they had playmakers like Ray Rice and Bolden on offense. Ed Reed, Suggs, Ngata on defense. They don't have any of that now. Getting a bunch of solid guys is great if you already have playmakers but Ravens have none. I'm not scared.



I don't like Cincy's draft for similar reasons. Yes, pick by pick they added a few good players but did they make themselves better? I guess Jackson could be an upgrade at CB but by how much over Kirkpatrick and Dennard?

They had a huge need at WR and added Tyler Boyd but he's more like Sanu. They just tread water with Boyd. BIllings was a steal but he fell because he may be a 2 down player. He's a great fit with Atkins though. Westerman was another steal.

Does a G and a run stuffing DT make a great draft? Does it put Cincy over that hump they have yet to clear? I don't think so.



Cleveland doesn't know what they are doing. First, i think they should have just taken Wentz. I don't know what the hell else they want in a prospect? Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck sure things don't come that often. There's always a risk. They will probably end up drafting a lesser QB prospect next year.

Aside from that, why draft a WR in RD 1? Are you rebuilding or not? If you are rebuilding then take Laremy Tunsil. Don't trade back and take a WR. Then they draft Kessler. Why? He doesn't have the arm to be more than a backup or at best an Alex Smith level starter. How do you not take a shot on Dak Prescott or Cardale Jones?

It's as if they just went to ESPN and drafted by college stats. Hey Kessler's stats look awesome. He must be way better than Prescott and Jones. Unless you watch tape. And Carl Nassib is godo but not really a fit in the 3-4.
 
i totally agree on Baltimore. The media is pimping them as a great draft but i think it was very mediocre. Sure, if you go pick by pick, they got a bunch of solid guys, but that's the problem with it, they are all just solid guys. I's not afraid of anybody, staring with Stanley.

Tunsil has far more upside than Stanley. They took the safe pick and they did that all draft. They traded back in rd 2 and got all this praise for still landing Correa but they passed on Noah Spence who is more of an impact player.

Round 3 they go Kaufusi, but i'd be more worried about Bullard, Calhoun, or Adolphus Washington who were all available.

How many rookies can make their team anyway? They drafted 11 guys. Do they have room for even half on their supposedly great roster?


When Baltimore was good, they had playmakers like Ray Rice and Bolden on offense. Ed Reed, Suggs, Ngata on defense. They don't have any of that now. Getting a bunch of solid guys is great if you already have playmakers but Ravens have none. I'm not scared.



I don't like Cincy's draft for similar reasons. Yes, pick by pick they added a few good players but did they make themselves better? I guess Jackson could be an upgrade at CB but by how much over Kirkpatrick and Dennard?

They had a huge need at WR and added Tyler Boyd but he's more like Sanu. They just tread water with Boyd. BIllings was a steal but he fell because he may be a 2 down player. He's a great fit with Atkins though. Westerman was another steal.

Does a G and a run stuffing DT make a great draft? Does it put Cincy over that hump they have yet to clear? I don't think so.



Cleveland doesn't know what they are doing. First, i think they should have just taken Wentz. I don't know what the hell else they want in a prospect? Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck sure things don't come that often. There's always a risk. They will probably end up drafting a lesser QB prospect next year.

Aside from that, why draft a WR in RD 1? Are you rebuilding or not? If you are rebuilding then take Laremy Tunsil. Don't trade back and take a WR. Then they draft Kessler. Why? He doesn't have the arm to be more than a backup or at best an Alex Smith level starter. How do you not take a shot on Dak Prescott or Cardale Jones?

It's as if they just went to ESPN and drafted by college stats. Hey Kessler's stats look awesome. He must be way better than Prescott and Jones. Unless you watch tape. And Carl Nassib is godo but not really a fit in the 3-4.

I agree with all of this, and was in fact wondering how many of these guys will get cut only to be scooped up by other teams. Having a ton of picks sounds like fun, but you can't possibly keep every player, and having all those picks they should really be used at key moments to trade up and grab a guy you really want.

In regards to the Browns, they are going full fledge into the analytic realm especially since they hired DePodesta (I think that's his name) who was the Moneyball guy, it was all about the numbers and stats. It reflects in their draft picks.
 
I think the Bengals drafted well, but due to their free agent losses I don't think they see the fruit from it this year.
 
Miami Dolphins
B
The real steal could be landing Tunsil but I'm not sure South Beach would be the place to bring anyone with a potential drug/off-field issues right now (same goes with Carroo). Howard is a decent second round pick with some upside. I thought Kenyan Drake was a bad pick considering all the other RB talent left on the board (either wait or take a better guy). Carroo has some off-field issues but round 4's about the correct place to draft him so I'm not hard on that. The rest are just guys and I don't like the wasted pick on a QB in round 6 either. Overall, it's a bit scattered in what they are doing and you see little philosophical fortitude from this team. This is a glass half full draft right now for Miami, but there's some potential for troubles as well.

Minnesota Vikings
A
One of my favorite drafts even without a 3rd round pick and only two in the top-120. Treadwell is a perfect fit for this offense and a much needed type player for Bridgewater if he's to lead a more efficient offense. Enough with the speedsters like Mike Wallace and Stefon Diggs for a guy that is best at throwing within 20 yards of the line of scrimmage. I also thought Alexander, while not my favorite player, is a good fit. They already have the big, outside Xavier Rhodes and Alexander fits as the quick underneath defender. That's a good pairing and match. I think the Willie Beavers pick is another A and will be a great fit outside in the cold. He's position versatile and offers a lot of choices at RT or either G spot and is a superior run blocker. Getting the German Boehringer in round 6 is also great value (every fan base wanted him) and some of their other day 3 picks have more upside than most. Really a good draft for the limited fire power they had.

New England
D+
Having their first pick taken by the NFL didn't help, but this draft was pretty bad in my opinion. Another team to trade back and take the shotgun approach, I don't really like Cyrus Jones in the late 2nd round, even with the run on corners. He's limited and while Belichick will get the most out of him as a punt returner and nickel/dime defender that's not really 2nd round value in my book. The quarterback selection in round 3 was a wasted pick. The other two 3rd rounders look like backup depth players for the lines (which is never really bad) but both were overdrafted in my opinion. As for everything in round 4 and later (5 picks), I like Malcolm Mitchell (don't sleep on that pick - that one could be good) but the others looks like very specific roll players for Belichick's ever changing and ever scheming system.

New Orleans Saints
B
I thought they did a good job with limited picks but their trade up to get a safety (Vonn Bell) was a bit of a head scratcher considering they have so much invested in Kenny Vaccaro and Jarius Byrd (might be a bad sign for either). I really liked the Rankins and Michael Thomas picks however and think both really fit and fill needs for the team. Onyemata is a project DT the team fell in love with and overdrafted but some really liked Daniel Lasco so that's good value in round 7 (and he sort of fits Sean Payton's offense as well). Overall it's a good draft but I didn't like the trade up even if I think Bell's an okay talent. They left a lot of needs still unaddressed.

New York Giants
B-
The Giants draft is pretty good but they reached on a few picks and might have had some opportunities to trade back or get more resources/picks. Eli Apple is a needed addition and provides the 3rd piece with newly acquired DRC and Jenkins as a completely revamped CB corps. But pick #10 for him is a bit high in my opinion. Sterling Shepherd is a solid WR that has a lot of similarities to Victor Cruz. His toughness over the middle is desperately needed. Mid-rounders Darian Thompson, BJ Goodson and Paul Perkins all look like NFL players and should stick and contribute on the roster. Even getting TE Jerrell Adams in round 7 is excellent lottery ticket considering how well Eli Manning plays and produces with average TE talent. I though Apple was a reach but the rest of the draft is pretty solid and addresses needs without over-reacting.

New York Jets
C+
Tough draft to grade. They get this year's Ryan Shazier at pick 20 in Darron Lee and this year's Jarvis Jones in round 3 in Jordan Jenkins and sandwich that around the conundrum that is Christian Hackenberg who's a potential Jay Cutler. So if all pan out to those players is that good or bad? If there's one thing you like they pick players that fit what they are trying to do. The project press corner in round 4 (Burris) and the mauling RT (Shell) fit their systems well and they got value in Charone Peake (although small hands in that windy stadium doesn't sound like a match). I guess the future grade revolves around Lee's impact as a runner-hitter and whether Hackenberg becomes anything. The QB drafts are hard to grade because of that but I think Jets fans are pretty optimistic right now.

Oakland Raiders
C+
I thought they reached pretty hard in both round 1 and 2 despite getting players many Steelers fans liked. No. 14 overall for a safety coming off injury is a tough sell even for a player who's tape I really liked. If he becomes Bob Sanders and stays healthy playing that way, it's a great draft but that's a complete unknown at this point. I don't like Jihad Ward in round 2 at all and think he's a couple years away. Same with Calhoun, who is good value in round 3 but is raw and has a lot of technical issues in his tape. Talent is there with both however and if Oakland becomes a force in 2-3 seasons, those guys might be part of it as very important role players. Conner Cook's not a bad investment in round 4 (although I'm not sure Oakland should be in that game right now) and some of the late round guys have NFL traits you like.

More to come....
 
Philadelphia Eagles
A-
We can second guess the Eagles all day about the Chip Kelly era, the train wreck power struggle between him and Howie Roseman and the resultant fire sale of seemingly 20 prospects/players over the last 4 seasons. But if you are going to start over from scratch, I think you have to go all-in like the Eagles just did for Carson Wentz. Yes, they are gutted now and possibly for next year as well. Yes they have way too much cap room invested in the QB spot. Yes, I don't have a clue what system they are running anymore so matching up their picks is hopeless. But I think Wentz is a good prospect, even better than Mariotta (who everyone in Philly wanted for mortgage the future for last season). At least they went for it, unlike Cleveland who continuously flaunts second class or reject QB's as "saviors" only to continue the countless cycle of regime changes and new signal callers that "fit" an ever changing system. As for the many back-end draft picks, I'm okay with most of them. I didn't like the guard in round 3 (Seumalo) but RB Smallwood, CB Jalen Mills and DE Alex McCalister seem like solid picks for their talent level. They might find a contributor or two in that group. It's 1999 in Philadelphia again and no one will care how much they gave up if Wentz ends up better than McNabb.

Pittsburgh Steelers
B-
I'm not quite as harsh as some on this draft. Not saying I love everything about it, but I'm not running up the white flag either. Losing out on William Jackson hurt and maybe they should have traded back rather than force the Burns selection, but he does fill a need and my evaluation indicates the potential for a good, not great, professional. I'm completely on board with Sean Davis who needs work but has all the talent and athletic ability you could ask for. Javon Hargrave is a talented small-school kid but I question scheme fit until I see it on the field. I even like the 4th round tackle (Hawkins) and think he's very underrated right now. I'm always a bit frustrated at the "special teams only" tag on many of our late rounders and Freeney, Ayers and Matakevich could be more I'm afraid they will get lost in the special teams shuffle on this team fairly early. Not a great draft, but not nearly as bad as some are making it out to be.

San Diego Chargers
A-
I like what San Diego did in the draft with their rare top-5 pick opportunity. They got the best pass rusher and best TE in the class both at positions I think they need. I thought Tuerk is a potential good fit for them and his movement skills are top-notch (he just has to gain weight). I love the linebackers they got in round 4 (Perry) and round 5 (Brown) and I predict both stick and contribute a lot during their rookie contracts. Not a lot bad to say about this draft at all.

San Francisco 49ers
B+
Getting DeForest Buckner at pick #7 was great luck and fortune for a team that desperately needs help up front and more nastiness in it's defensive front-7 (one devastated by every/all reasons). I really don't like the trade up back into round one for a 2nd/3rd round talent guard in Josh Garnett but they obviously like him and the move keeps the smart player in the San Fran area from Stanford (they also had a lot of picks for this draft). The double cornerback picks in round 3 and 4 are rife with risk but equally with reward as both Redmond and Robinson have starter level talent. Ronald Blair and John Theus are further investments in the trenches in rounds (okay with both picks). So while I don't necessarily like the back end picks very well, I do like what they did with their prime selections. Again, keep Chip Kelly away from making all the decisions and maybe this will work. So far year one for Chip Kelly v2.0 might be off to an okay start.

Seattle Seahawks
B-
Another team with tons of selections (3 compensatory picks) really wheeled and dealed during draft day but for what net result I'm still unsure of. I did not like their first round pick at all and think Ifedi was way overdrafted. The kid has a lot of faults in his game and the potential to have no position at the next level (note this applied a bit to their round 3 offensive line pick in Odhiambo as well). Tom Cable is a good O-line coach, but I wonder if the pundits are expecting too much to make these two guys work. Seattle did do well with their other round 2-3 selections. Reed, Prosise and Vannett might be "just guys" but they are good guys from big time programs (Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio State) who won't be intimidated by the jump to the pros. The late rounders are a bit confusing. Not sure I like the two additional late round RB's (Collins and Brooks) after picking Prosise. I also don't like the undersized center in Joey Hunt. I do like the additional DL depth in Quinton Jefferson and don't sleep on WR Kenny Lawler who could surprise in Seattle's system.

Tampa Bay
C-
After two promising selections in Vernon Hargreaves and Noah Spence, they completely dropped the ball in selected a round 2 kicker (they trade round 3 and 4 to get him). Just unacceptable in my book no matter how good or how local he is. Just a waste of a pick(s) in the prime part of the draft especially when you think of the good safeties (Justin Simmons) and WR's that were available as positions of need. After that fiasco, their round 4+ picks leave a lot to be desired. Not sure any make it. For all intents and purposes, this is a 2-player draft and you get your kicker cheap for 4 years. Not sure I think that's the best use of the resources you started with (especially when you started at pick #9).

Tennessee Titans
B
Titans got the mother load of picks by trading out of pick #1 and used it to wheel and deal around the draft for who they wanted. I thought they reached a bit by trading up to get OT Conklin but I see the fit as he is a clone of Taylor Lewan. Still that seems high for a RT in my opinion. Their three 2nd round pick yielded a nice haul of front-7 talent (Kevin Dodd - who might play LOLB for Lebeau - and Austin Johnson - who I love as a traditional NT) and the bruising, huge and incredibly fast RB, Derrick Henry. If they commit to that type of power running game (and their 6th round G selection is the same bruising blocker) and tough defense, which round 3 safety Kevin Byard also helps, maybe Tennessee is headed in the right direction. I even like their late round CB projects and another OLB pass rusher I had eyes on as a Steelers fan (Aaron Wallace). It takes more than one draft to see a commitment from a team towards a style of play but if this draft was any indication of how they want to build around Mariotta, I kind of like it.

Washington Redskins
C
I love their bookend selections: WR Doctson in round 1 (picked over Treadwell however) and RB Keith Marshall in round 7 (who I still predict big things for). As for all the picks in the middle, I'm pretty disappointed. Cravens and Fuller are two of the most overrated back end prospects in this draft in my opinion and I think both struggle with the leap to NFL speed and athleticism. Forcing play time or sticking with them while they learn could be frustrating to watch as a Redskins fan. I don't think much of the potential in Ioannidis (NT), Nate Sudfeld (QB) or Daniels (ILB).
 
Pittsburgh Steelers
B-
I'm not quite as harsh as some on this draft. Not saying I love everything about it, but I'm not running up the white flag either. Losing out on William Jackson hurt and maybe they should have traded back rather than force the Burns selection, but he does fill a need and my evaluation indicates the potential for a good, not great, professional. I'm completely on board with Sean Davis who needs work but has all the talent and athletic ability you could ask for. Javon Hargrave is a talented small-school kid but I question scheme fit until I see it on the field. I even like the 4th round tackle (Hawkins) and think he's very underrated right now. I'm always a bit frustrated at the "special teams only" tag on many of our late rounders and Freeney, Ayers and Matakevich could be more I'm afraid they will get lost in the special teams shuffle on this team fairly early. Not a great draft, but not nearly as bad as some are making it out to be.


Fair, even-handed, balanced, void of overly emotional, knee-jerk reactions. The way a solid football post should read. Thank you. And kudos for going through all the teams, nice work!
 
Cincinnati Bengals
A-
Hard to find anything wrong with any of their first 5 picks. Nothing special, just stuck to the board and picked the best guy regardless of need. We've talked about William Jackson to death. Tyler Boyd is a solid, if unspectacular WR, that I worry might be maxed out but he works for what they want to do opposite A.J. Green (all they need is solid and steady). I thought Nick Vigil went a round or two too high, but it's not the end of the world. But Andrew Billings and Christian Westerman are flat out steals in mid-rounds. Obviously if Billings isn't healthy, that's another story, but even so it seems okay in Round 4. He still has legs doesn't he? I really like Westerman, so as much as I want to throw mud on this draft, I can't. It's solid and pretty consistent with how Cincinnati has drafted lately. There's a reason they have the best record in the division since 2011 (it's not Marvin Lewis, let's say that). They've drafted a lot of good players.

I am glad some Steeler fans can accept reality, instead of being in denial. You clearly see that Cinci has indeed had a great draft. You give Pgh a higher grade than I feel they deserve. Considering Burns is a man-press guy, and we play more zone than ANY other team, he isn't going to help us right out of the gate. If anything, keeping Boykin would have been the wiser move. I bet you that Boykin will have a more productive 2016 than Burns will. And the Davis pick.....there is a lot more to football than merely being a physical specimen. You need to have instincts to play this game, and I don't think Davis has them, AND he is horrible in missing tackles as well. He has Scott Shields written all over him. Shields was big and fast, and couldn't play football to save his life. Steelers have been horrid at drafting safeties since Troy. Just terrible.
 
Fair, even-handed, balanced, void of overly emotional, knee-jerk reactions. The way a solid football post should read. Thank you. And kudos for going through all the teams, nice work!

Well, a little homerish. They deserve a C-, not B-. The first two picks were reaches. You can't blow your first two picks. You need to nail those or it's not a good draft.
 
Well, a little homerish. They deserve a C-, not B-. The first two picks were reaches. You can't blow your first two picks. You need to nail those or it's not a good draft.

You are familiar with the term subjective, right?
 
I am glad some Steeler fans can accept reality, instead of being in denial. You clearly see that Cinci has indeed had a great draft. You give Pgh a higher grade than I feel they deserve. Considering Burns is a man-press guy, and we play more zone than ANY other team, he isn't going to help us right out of the gate. If anything, keeping Boykin would have been the wiser move. I bet you that Boykin will have a more productive 2016 than Burns will. And the Davis pick.....there is a lot more to football than merely being a physical specimen. You need to have instincts to play this game, and I don't think Davis has them, AND he is horrible in missing tackles as well. He has Scott Shields written all over him. Shields was big and fast, and couldn't play football to save his life. Steelers have been horrid at drafting safeties since Troy. Just terrible.

I agree there is some criticism to how the Steelers are doing things. Instead of being in a position to draft best available players they seem to push off problems until so late they almost go overboard trying to fix them. The offensive line was a train wreck from 2007-2009. We all know it. It was being kept together with duct tape and there was little plan in moving forward. So we ended up spending 4 of the next 6 premium draft choices (2 firsts and 2 seconds) on offensive linemen: Pouncey, Gilbert, DeCastro and Adams. Problem is "fixed" but it takes this kind of overkill investment.

In the early 2010's the pass rush started to disappear to the team goes crazy trying to fix it: Worilds, Heyward, Jones, Shazier, Tuitt, Dupree. Six 1st/2nd round picks in this decade (50%) trying to chase a problem most here saw coming down the pike (and might still not be fixed).

Now it's the DB's that are finally getting attention. With three of our last four 1st/2nd round selections for the back end: Golson, Burns, Davis.

You can't tell me when you look at how strong they go after positions this is best player available drafting anymore. It's just too much of a coincidence where the picks are going in relation to our needs. That tells me we are stacking our boards more and more with need in mind rather than pure talent.

I think that's partly the reason you aren't seeing great surprises out of our picks anymore (other than the occasionally late round WR, which is the only position we can draft well). We're picking good players but we eliminate the chance to get GREAT players because they don't happen to be what we need this particular off season.

I mean there is nothing wrong with Hood, Pouncey, Worilds, Heyward, Gilbert, DeCastro, Adams, Jones, Bell, Shazier, Tuitt, Dupree, Golson. For the most part a lot more hits than misses, but are any truly great, impact players? I don't think so. Bell has a chance to be special and produce special production but most of the others are either average, good or very good players (probably evenly distributed among the three groups).

We need GREAT soon because a group of average, good and very good players doesn't normally get you that far in the NFL.
 
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I mean there is nothing wrong with Hood, Pouncey, Worilds, Heyward, Gilbert, DeCastro, Adams, Jones, Bell, Shazier, Tuitt, Dupree, Golson. For the most part a lot more hits than misses, but are any truly great, impact players? I don't think so.

Damn del, you have some pretty lofty standards. The players bolded I think are about as good as you can wish for having mid-to-low draft picks year in and year out. I included guys like Shazier, Tuitt, Dupree and Golson cause it's way too early to know what type of players they will be. In particular Dupree, who's played a single year and Golson, who hasn't gotten on the field yet. These players (bolded) are huge impact players as far as the Steelers go, basically the core of the football team for years to come. One that happens to be up there among the contenders heading into next season. I think you're hyper-critical overall concerning the players Colbert has brought aboard. It's like you expect every draft pick to be a HOF'er. I don't think it works that way.

If you want to talk about teams with issues and screwed up draft picks, look at the blue chip, can't miss players picked at the top of the draft.

The Jaguars declined LT Luke Joeckel's fifth-year option.
This was expected after Joeckel struggled mightily his first three seasons, and lost his starting job to free agent pickup Kelvin Beachum. Joeckel has not shown the ability to handle himself in an NFL running game, and has been pulverized in pass protection. He was the No. 2 pick in the 2013 draft. The No. 1 pick in that draft -- Chiefs LT Eric Fisher -- has been only slightly better.
 
To be fair deljzc, to make better sense of your assessment, I guess I should go back through the previous draft boards and see who we should have picked instead of Pouncey, Heyward, Gilbert, DeCastro, Bell, Shazier, Tuitt & Dupree. Perhaps there are 'truly great, impact players' that were available at those spots, and we passed them up for lesser players. Not sure I'll have the time to do so, but you may be right, that these guys weren't our best choices.
 
I am glad some Steeler fans can accept reality, instead of being in denial. You clearly see that Cinci has indeed had a great draft. You give Pgh a higher grade than I feel they deserve. Considering Burns is a man-press guy, and we play more zone than ANY other team, he isn't going to help us right out of the gate. If anything, keeping Boykin would have been the wiser move. I bet you that Boykin will have a more productive 2016 than Burns will. And the Davis pick.....there is a lot more to football than merely being a physical specimen. You need to have instincts to play this game, and I don't think Davis has them, AND he is horrible in missing tackles as well. He has Scott Shields written all over him. Shields was big and fast, and couldn't play football to save his life. Steelers have been horrid at drafting safeties since Troy. Just terrible.

And when Jackson turns out to be the 2nd coming of DJ Hayden, how great is their draft going to be? Everybody on this board was fascinated with Jackson and hoping he was going to be the man at 25, but don't forget that Jackson is a bit of a project at corner as well. Before the combine, he was widely considered a 2nd-3rd round pick. So he runs a 4.37 40 and becomes a typical combine darling. Boyd makes most of his plays inside of 7 yards and has a problem looking up the field. Dude hears footsteps. He'll have his share of drops/fumbles especially considering how easily he's pushed around. Vigil, their 3rd rounder, isn't physical and is going to struggle getting off of blocks. Similar player to Matakevich and the Steelers took their special teamer in the 7th round, not the 3rd. As for Billings, there's a reason even the team that drafted him passed over him 3 times before calling his name. Not only is he a 2-down player, but you can't make too many plays from the ground. It's going to be fun watching Pouncey and DeCastro pounding his *** all game long. No, I'm not in denial. But just because they drafted "names" hardly means that their draft was a ******* home run.

And del, good write up as usual. A lot of time and effort on your behalf and you deserve some props.
 
I thought Buffalo had a nice draft.

I'd agree with your assessment of ours as well. I was pissed about Burns but after seeing where he was on the boards of people that I trust, not so much.

Utterly sick that the cheating ******** got Malcolm Mitchell.
 
Damn del, you have some pretty lofty standards. The players bolded I think are about as good as you can wish for having mid-to-low draft picks year in and year out. I included guys like Shazier, Tuitt, Dupree and Golson cause it's way too early to know what type of players they will be. In particular Dupree, who's played a single year and Golson, who hasn't gotten on the field yet. These players (bolded) are huge impact players as far as the Steelers go, basically the core of the football team for years to come. One that happens to be up there among the contenders heading into next season. I think you're hyper-critical overall concerning the players Colbert has brought aboard. It's like you expect every draft pick to be a HOF'er. I don't think it works that way.

If you want to talk about teams with issues and screwed up draft picks, look at the blue chip, can't miss players picked at the top of the draft.

I don't have a lot different in out drafts but part of the problem is positional value.

During Tombert's regime, we've spent a lot of premium draft choices on non-premium positions: Inside Linebacker (x2), Center, Right Tackle, Right Guard, 3-4 Defensive End (x2).

I'm not saying those aren't important positions, but do they impact games? Not so sure. And they are also positions where you can normally find starting talent (even better than average) later in the draft.

Part of the problem has really been we haven't found many diamonds in drafts late (other than WR) at positions that you normally can find them at: safety, inside linebacker, 3-4 defensive ends, guards, centers.

I mean we found Foster cheap.... is DeCastro changing games that much more than Foster? And I love DeCastro. I wanted to pick him (or Hightower) that season.

Most of these players are nice foundation players because they play mostly meat and potato roles on our team. We've talked ad naseum about the value Tombert seems to put on inside linebacker runner-hitter types but I'm not sure I see the benefit on the field.

We're the impact?
 
I hear you Del,

Our team has ALWAYS overvalued centers and safeties. Safety is the only position we attack in free agency when we have a hole. The Steeler philosophy with Centers are, they value the center over every other line position. It allows them the versatility to pull and maul with athletic middle men. These guys are only found high in the draft. Other teams are happy with a strong plug and play center. You can find them later in the draft, but not the athletic ones.

I think ILB is starting to change to a Safety/ILB hybrid, which is a very fast, strong, skillful player. First we drafted Spence on those metrics, then Shazier. To get that type of Sparq scores on an ILB that can hit, play zone, and run with TEs/WRs/RBs, you have to draft them high now.

I agree with those assessments 10 years ago, but the game is changing to a wide open league. It's why RBs were gold in the 80s/90s, but now are afterthoughts, unless they can catch out of the backfield. So the RB stock has plummeted since the Emmit Smith era, while TEs have risen. Same on D. Your OLBs and DEs are always a premium, but Safeties and ILBs are starting to rise as more 3-4 receiver sets are becoming the base offense of this league.
 
Here's another idea too.

It's SAFER to draft good centers and guards and inside linebackers in the first round. They almost always produce something. It's rare to find 1st round busts when you pick those positions.

So why are we giving such props to our GM/coach when those are practically the easiest positions to draft in the first couple of rounds? A monkey and a turtle could have read any on-line draft guide and known Pouncey and DeCastro are okay 1st round picks. I would put inside linebacker and 3-4 DE's in that boat as well. Very few complete busts or unproductive players. Even Hood (who was drafted out of position) "contributed" his rookie contract because I'm not so sure it's THAT hard to play that position in the Steelers system. Sure, we notice when that guy tries to replace Aaron Smith, but Hood is still getting snap counts in the league.

And show me a really bad right tackle pick in the first 2 rounds. A complete bust that never became a starter. Not many.

So as I continue to watch Tombert draft, I have to question where the "risk/reward" is in many of their picks. They have often taken the safer, surer thing (nothing is 100%, but drafting a first round center is about 95%).

When this team starts to go outside those "surer" positions, we've had troubles: pass rushers and now cornerbacks aren't quite as easy to find so we'll see if they can be as good at those tougher positions to evaluate as they are with centers and guards and 3-4 DE's.... because honestly almost anyone here with a search engine can stack the board on centers, guards and 3-4 DE's and be pretty decent.
 
every team suffers from risk reward on Draft Day....

it's not unique to Tombert.

it's not like there is one or three teams that hit it out of the park every year.
 
I think one thing that is being overlooked is the Steelers are a pretty loyal team, which may explain some of the "pushing it down the road" stuff. Veterans that have played great for them are given a full opportunity to show they can't do it anymore. It seems to work for the most part, but it can be frustrating around draft time.

They did the same thing in the early '80s. They probably should have let go a few of those veterans for the Super Bowl years in hindsight, and keep some guys they drafted. Dwain Board, a DT comes to mind. Had a nice career with San Fran. Think he was drafted by the Steelers in '80 or '81. Dwight White was at the end by that time, maybe overstayed a year. But who the hell is going to tell great players like that, who won so many games for you, to hit the pike? I know they played tough with Franco later, but I think that was a contract issue.

Troy and Ike Taylor and Farrior and Smith and Ward and so on won a hell of a lot of games and more importantly championships. It's hard to just push them out.

Remember, as much as football is a business and should be treated as such, there is still the human element to it.
 
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Since JAX took "Miles" Jack (according to Del) - can we get "Myles" Jack now???::p:

Trying to write the names of some of these prospects in any kind of blog/paragraph form is a hard, tedious project.

If you know the amount of time spend ALT-TAB between web pages to make sure I get names spelled write....
 
I normally don't like draft grades right away by the mainstream media. Almost all their plus grades have to do with drafting high, drafting often or both. But this year in particular some journalists are just slobbering all over bad picks and it bothers me.

Arizona Cardinals
D
There's a reason Nkemdiche fell in the draft so this isn't a "steal". Arizona is on the bubble of collecting one too many bad apples and this is a super talent grab by Arians to try and get over the hump before his QB can't walk anymore. On top of that, I'm not even sure he's a scheme fit with what they do. As for the rest of their draft, it looks like a bunch of "just guys" to me with no one grading out very well on my board and most every other I've seen. I would argue that every one of their picks was a reach from round 3 to round 6. We'll find out if they are smarter than everyone else, but I doubt it.

Atlanta Falcons
C
While I don't agree with everything they've done, they at least are sticking to a plan. Neal was a reach, but it was a position of need and he played under their head coach so he should know exactly what he is getting. They obviously wanted speed in their linebackers and they doubled up trying to find it with their 2nd and 4th round picks. And I think Austin Hooper is a very good 3rd round selection with both value and need. So overall, I think they lost on value, but got need and scheme match pretty good.

Baltimore Ravens
C+
When you have the #8 overall pick and 11 picks overall (including five 4th rounders) it's hard not to find a few players, but I think Ravens fans will look back at this draft unfavorably in a few seasons. I think Stanley is not as great as some are proclaiming and reports are they wanted Tunsil and got spooked by the pre-draft video of him smoking pot. I thought Correa and Kaufusi were two of the most overhyped front-7 players in the draft. As a Steelers fan, I'm not afraid of undersized mid-round Pac-10 and Mountain West pass rushers. There's a lack of toughness in those conferences and in their play that I don't think fits in the AFC North. We'll find out. If anything, what props Baltimore's grade up the most is some of their mid round work. Willie Henry and Kenneth Dixon in my opinion are their two best round 4 selections. And Canady, while having flaws, wasn't bad value in Round 7. Those counteract some head scratchers to me in Chris Moore (who yes, does fit their chuck it and hope for a pass interference offense, but that's about it), Tavon Young (way too undersized) and Alex Lewis (dead end on that one I think). So again, volume doesn't necessarily mean good drafted. But they still got some players we'll likely see in years to come.

Buffalo Bills
B+
Pretty solid picks in every round with an obvious emphasis on the defensive side of the ball as Rex Ryan rebuilds that group in his image (of course that can be a huge waste of resources if you aren't committed to his vision and he leaves). Lawson, Ragland and Washington are big players from big programs that play tough man football. All will contribute a lot of snaps this year and moving forward. As far as Cardale Jones in round 4, I thought that was a bit high for him, but understand the logic. For a Rex Ryan team, in 2-3 years he can build the defense into a top-5 unit and possibly let Jones just play wild football. His size, arm strength and hand certainly fit cold weather Buffalo to a tee. I described Jones as a combination of Tebow and Russell, which I don't think works in the NFL, but Rex Ryan certainly is the type of coach that would accept a simple, college offense if it can protect the ball, be physical and get 20 ppg. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but can't you maybe imagine a tough Rex Ryan team with Jones at the helm in cold, snowy Buffalo come playoff time in January, 2020? It's a long shot, but certainly not out of the realm of possibilities either. As for the rest of the draft, it's good as well. Williams and Listenbee are NFL talents that will at least be given a shot to contribute and make the team as something more than a special teamer.

Carolina Panthers
C-
Odd draft for the Panthers. I have no problem with Butler in round 1. As Steelers fans know, the choices at the back end of round 1 were difficult to judge. Butler is a solid DT prospect even if it's not at a position of need and I have no problems when teams build on strengths if there is value in a draft pick. The next three picks however are a bit less constructive. As can only be described as a shotgun approach to replacing Josh Norman (who they didn't really need to lose), they draft THREE corners back-to-back-to-back in rounds two, three and five leaving only their last pick in round 7 to do anything on offense (a likely 3rd string TE at best). I also think the players they drafted are very average, especially their 2nd round pick in James Bradberry who is very raw and had draft grades mostly in the mid-to-late round range. They better hope one of the corners pans out but even then it's not the most stellar way of drafting in my opinion.

Chicago Bears:
B
This grade is not about Leonard Floyd, who I strongly feel was over drafted and likely a bust if asked to be a pass rusher specialist (which I'm sure Chicago is selling their fans right now). But I can't fault them for all the great picks they had after round 1. I was a huge fan of Cody Whitehair and think he will start sooner rather than later on that group (and further raises the IQ level of a group that needs it). I also think Bullard is a very good pick and think he'll be a nice, versatile down lineman who can line up at DE on run downs or move inside on passing downs. He's a good pick for anyone playing a 4-3 and a particularly good fit for a team needing to generate more pressure. Nothing really wowed me with their three 4th round picks but they are good depth guys on the defense as John Fox and Vic Fangio work on that unit. I love their RB pick Jordan Howard in round 5. That's a steal in my opinion. He's perfect for Chicago and John Fox. And I thought SS DeAndre Houston-Carlson and WR Daniel Braverman were value selections that were higher on many people's' boards. If it wasn't for my feeling on Floyd, this is likely an "A" draft.

Cincinnati Bengals
A-
Hard to find anything wrong with any of their first 5 picks. Nothing special, just stuck to the board and picked the best guy regardless of need. We've talked about William Jackson to death. Tyler Boyd is a solid, if unspectacular WR, that I worry might be maxed out but he works for what they want to do opposite A.J. Green (all they need is solid and steady). I thought Nick Vigil went a round or two too high, but it's not the end of the world. But Andrew Billings and Christian Westerman are flat out steals in mid-rounds. Obviously if Billings isn't healthy, that's another story, but even so it seems okay in Round 4. He still has legs doesn't he? I really like Westerman, so as much as I want to throw mud on this draft, I can't. It's solid and pretty consistent with how Cincinnati has drafted lately. There's a reason they have the best record in the division since 2011 (it's not Marvin Lewis, let's say that). They've drafted a lot of good players.

Cleveland Brows
D
Well, moneyball in the NFL might mean this: 14 draft picks and see who comes out the other end. To me, this draft grade has nothing to do with the shotgun approach they took to this year's draft. I'm sure 3-4 will make it as quality NFL players. But my opinion is they made a franchise killing mistake in passing on Carson Wentz. PInning your future hopes on RGIII and the supposed poor classes of QB's coming down the pike is not "moneyball". It's foolish. So while this draft with Coleman and Ogbah and Nassib and a host of mid-to-late round depth guys is nice for a team that just had yet another regime change (the 4th in this decade) and just gutted their roster yet again to fit a new "scheme", I don't think it will change the fortunes of this franchise one iota. I thought Wentz might have been able to do that.

Dallas Cowboys
B+
How Jaylon Smith comes back from his Sean Spence-type injury will obviously make or break this draft, but this has the potential to be a solid draft even without Smith. While I didn't like Elliott at #4 over Jaylen Ramsey, we all know he's getting 300+ touches this season and will be a uber productive player behind Dallas' offensive line. I thought Maliek Collins and Charles Tapper really add some much needed pieces for Rod Marinelli to work with in that unit. And don't sleep on super athletes Anthony Brown and Kevon Frazier at finding ways to contribute at the next level and being good picks down the line. I don't really like Dak Prescott, but you understand the need at this stage of Romo's career. Overall, it's a good draft that could be really good in Smith ends up being a great WILL for that old Tampa-2 style defense in one or two seasons.

Denver Broncos
B-
Trading up to get a QB in the back half of round 1 is always risky and I was no great fan of Paxton Lynch but they are now committed and he couldn't have asked for a better situation to be thrown into. It's a championship roster who is managed by a GM with surprisingly similar skill set when he was a quarterback. Lynch is no Elway, but the athleticism is similar as is the overly strong arm that still needs to be reigned in and polished. In fact, of all the rookie QB's, Lynch could initially look the best by coming in week 8 or 9 to a struggling Denver team after Sanchez and look halfway decent early. But I don't see much long-term with the pick and still think his accuracy issues will restrict his ceiling. Other than the all-in on a QB their draft was pretty good, getting one of Steeler Nation's favorite players, Justin Simmons, in round 3 (where everyone here wanted him). That's an A pick. I think Davonte Booker fits them as a 3rd down guy and Gotsis (who I think was overdrafted) and McGovern provide a body on each side of the line for depth. Overall it's solid for now but we all know depends on what Lynch looks like and where this team is in 3-4 seasons.

Detroit Lions
B-
It's a meat and potatoes draft for the Lions this year with strong investment (4 out of their first 5 picks) in the trenches. Even their round 4 safety, Miles Killebrew (who I didn't like the tape on) is oversized and a downhill player. If they wanted to get bigger and tougher, they drafted that way. I don't see a lot of wasted effort in their picks and had high ratings on both Decker and Robinson and thought they got good value with both. This isn't a flashy draft or likely one you'll see a lot of on the stat sheet but teams sometimes need to invest in these positions to make all the other flashy guys look good. I thought they might have been able to do a bit better with their 6 picks from round 5 to the end (not a fan of the QB or the long snapper for this team) so we'll see if they get the correct 1-2 hits given the 6 tries they had.

Green Bay Packers
C
Four Pac-10 players highlight an up-and-down draft for the Packers in my opinion. I was not a fan of Kenny Clark in round 1 but they came back and got great value in the very athletic Jason Spriggs in round 2 (although I'm not sure he's an ideal scheme fit). The older Fackrell and the quick Martinez add needed depth to their linebacker group. The team failed to address secondary which might be cause for concern but they stuck to the board instead and I thought Lowry, Davis and Murphy all help depth and have a chance to make the roster. If not for Kenny Clark, this has a chance to be a decent, contributing class of athletes, but Clark is such a meh pick to start things off with so many better choices at that position, you have to penalize them a lot for that selection.

More to come.....


As much as I hate to admit it, I like Cincy's draft. I disarge on Dallas. Anyone can run the bal there with their OL. They should have taken Ramsey, and in round two taken a healty player. The clock is ticking on Romo...
 
Pittsburgh Steelers
B-
I'm not quite as harsh as some on this draft. Not saying I love everything about it, but I'm not running up the white flag either. Losing out on William Jackson hurt and maybe they should have traded back rather than force the Burns selection, but he does fill a need and my evaluation indicates the potential for a good, not great, professional. I'm completely on board with Sean Davis who needs work but has all the talent and athletic ability you could ask for. Javon Hargrave is a talented small-school kid but I question scheme fit until I see it on the field. I even like the 4th round tackle (Hawkins) and think he's very underrated right now. I'm always a bit frustrated at the "special teams only" tag on many of our late rounders and Freeney, Ayers and Matakevich could be more I'm afraid they will get lost in the special teams shuffle on this team fairly early. Not a great draft, but not nearly as bad as some are making it out to be. -Deljzc


Fair, even-handed, balanced, void of overly emotional, knee-jerk reactions. The way a solid football post should read. Thank you. And kudos for going through all the teams, nice work!

I think our draft was a B- too, but its risky. Burns is not ready to play. I'm not on board with Davis and think he's a SS type with coverage issues depsite his work out numbers.

Ayers to me was a wasted pick 5'9" tall and ran a 4.71 at the combine as a WR/KR?

If Burns pans out, the draft will have served its purpose as lord knows the Steelers do not spend a lot of money on free agent corners from other teams. If he does not we will have to wiat 2-3 seasons before picking a corner high in the draft.
 
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