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For those who'd lump all religions together

Tim Steelersfan

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Here Are The Major Differences Between The Teachings Of Islam And Christianity

http://www.chicksontheright.com/her...ween-the-teachings-of-islam-and-christianity/

It’s always amusing when liberals try to compare Islam to Christianity, as if the two are similar. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

One is a disgusting death cult. The other is beautiful love story. One group of people serves an angry god full of vengeance. The other serves a God filled with love and mercy– a God who came down and sacrificed Himself so we could have a close and intimate relationship with Him.

There’s no comparison. None. Zero. I could write a novel about the differences between the two faiths, but this chart does a great job covering the basics.

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“Religion of Peace” my butt.
 
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Excellent point Tim! Islam is satanism, it is NOTHING like Christianity. People making that claim don't know the first thing about either faith.
 
The pics aren't working.

Still I am in before the crazies shout "But what about the Crusades?"
 
Excellent point Tim! Islam is satanism, it is NOTHING like Christianity. People making that claim don't know the first thing about either faith.

If your religion tells you to kill everyone who belongs to a different religion, then you need a new religion.

The pics aren't working.

Still I am in before the crazies shout "But what about the Crusades?"
I couldn't upload or hyperlink a pic last night too.
Timothy McVeigh, Timothy McVeigh, Timothy McVeigh!!!!
 
Good article on history of The Crusades - http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/mayweb-only/52.0.html?start=1

Christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics. Muslims really were gunning for them. While Muslims can be peaceful, Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword. Muslim thought divides the world into two spheres, the Abode of Islam and the Abode of War. Christianity—and for that matter any other non-Muslim religion—has no abode. Christians and Jews can be tolerated within a Muslim state under Muslim rule. But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered. When Mohammed was waging war against Mecca in the seventh century, Christianity was the dominant religion of power and wealth. As the faith of the Roman Empire, it spanned the entire Mediterranean, including the Middle East, where it was born. The Christian world, therefore, was a prime target for the earliest caliphs, and it would remain so for Muslim leaders for the next thousand years.

With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed's death. They were extremely successful. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt—once the most heavily Christian areas in the world—quickly succumbed. By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East.

Understand the crusaders
That is what gave birth to the Crusades. They were not the brainchild of an ambitious pope or rapacious knights but a response to more than four centuries of conquests in which Muslims had already captured two-thirds of the old Christian world. At some point, Christianity as a faith and a culture had to defend itself or be subsumed by Islam. The Crusades were that defense.

Was a defensive response.
 
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Still I am in before the crazies shout "But what about the Crusades?"

The pics are working here, no issues. But I've put a little hyperlinky in now just for you sir.
 

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Decal I have on my truck. Waiting for a Muzzie to ask if I know what that means and I will say "Yes, I do".
Sorry it's sideways.
That is offensive to some non-oppressor class, protected victim population. By that, I mean liberals.
 
Decal I have on my truck. Waiting for a Muzzie to ask if I know what that means and I will say "Yes, I do".
Sorry it's sideways.

I had the seal of the Poor Fellows as my Facebook pic for over a month.
 
You still both believe in make believe stories about men being more than just men. No one was conceived by God. No one rose from dead. No one performed miracles or "talked to or for God". It's a bunch of bologna and deep down you all know it's true. There will never be another "Messiah" because there never was one, in any faith, ever before. It is laughable to think otherwise. It's a fairy tale.

Jesus and Mohammed were prophets/revolutionaries raised and produced by the trials and tribulations of their times. I agree Jesus' message was much more of peace and love than Muhammed. No doubt about that. And if you want to live your life using Jesus as an example, go right ahead. Probably a good thing.

But there is no life after death BECAUSE of one faith or another. That is the exclusionary tone of all religious that forms the basis for most divisiveness in the world. The idea ONLY a certain faith or belief allows access to some special "afterlife" place is the carrot that ruins all religion and preys upon the weak minded and insecure of the world.

Faith can be a wonderful thing that can help humans handle the emotional toils of life. We should celebrate faith in a realistic way. Trying to better ourselves and better our emotional state to handle the adversity of life. But it isn't magic. It doesn't come from anyone but inside ourselves or each other.

The organization of religions into exclusions and rewards based on what you believe is bad for humanity. Civilized society should be against ALL religions that say anything along those lines because by definition it causes strife, superiority and segregation.
 
You still both believe in make believe stories about men being more than just men. No one was conceived by God. No one rose from dead. No one performed miracles or "talked to or for God". It's a bunch of bologna and deep down you all know it's true. There will never be another "Messiah" because there never was one, in any faith, ever before. It is laughable to think otherwise. It's a fairy tale.

Jesus and Mohammed were prophets/revolutionaries raised and produced by the trials and tribulations of their times. I agree Jesus' message was much more of peace and love than Muhammed. No doubt about that. And if you want to live your life using Jesus as an example, go right ahead. Probably a good thing.

But there is no life after death BECAUSE of one faith or another. That is the exclusionary tone of all religious that forms the basis for most divisiveness in the world. The idea ONLY a certain faith or belief allows access to some special "afterlife" place is the carrot that ruins all religion and preys upon the weak minded and insecure of the world.

Faith can be a wonderful thing that can help humans handle the emotional toils of life. We should celebrate faith in a realistic way. Trying to better ourselves and better our emotional state to handle the adversity of life. But it isn't magic. It doesn't come from anyone but inside ourselves or each other.

The organization of religions into exclusions and rewards based on what you believe is bad for humanity. Civilized society should be against ALL religions that say anything along those lines because by definition it causes strife, superiority and segregation.

Whether you believe or not in a higher order is irrelevant to the discussion. Billions do.

What is being discussed Del is for those who follow these religions, where do the differences lie? Which religion teaches what?

Today's MSM and Liberal world are trying to equate Christianity and Islam regarding violence. There is no comparison and anyone who believes there is is a fool. One teaches to kill and murder in the name of its god. The other does not.

That is the simple point. To clear the confusion and the attempts to misinform.
 
While I think Islam is a destructive religion and I'm no fan and I'm also not trying to knock Christianity by saying this....but I have to take issue with the idea that the Christian God is not angry or vengeful. Must have come from a different Bible than the one I'm familiar with.
 
While I think Islam is a destructive religion and I'm no fan and I'm also not trying to knock Christianity by saying this....but I have to take issue with the idea that the Christian God is not angry or vengeful. Must have come from a different Bible than the one I'm familiar with.

New Testament Guy. Christ reconciles us with the father.
 
New Testament Guy. Christ reconciles us with the father.

I understand that, but it's not like the old testament doesn't exist because of that. And there are a whole lot of Christians who hold to the fire and brimstone old testament. I should know because I grew up around them.
 
For all the "love and peace" the New Testament espouses, it is still much more exclusionary than the Old Testament.

The New Testament is defined by either believing in Jesus or not. You either accept him or not. And it lays out a litany of rewards if you do and damnation if you don't. For all the love and peace Jesus preached, he still made it very clear that the ONLY way to supposed "salvation" and "life after death" was though him and only him. And he often demanded and encouraged changing people's minds, spreading the word and performing missions with little clarity or limits on how to do that.

There is a long history of Christians seeming to support any and all methods to "convert" anyone because they so strongly believe without Jesus is only death, thus allowing them to effect the now and the living so cruelly. Almost all colonization was done using the cloak of Christianity as an excuse to enslave, relocate and steal indigenous cultures. Often using the language of "spread the gospel" as it's primary fuel.
 
my take on religion is simple:
If you need religion to not be a shitbag, then by all means, get you some religion.
If you're religious and a shitbag, most likely you're Islamic.
 
For all the "love and peace" the New Testament espouses, it is still much more exclusionary than the Old Testament.

The New Testament is defined by either believing in Jesus or not. You either accept him or not. And it lays out a litany of rewards if you do and damnation if you don't. For all the love and peace Jesus preached, he still made it very clear that the ONLY way to supposed "salvation" and "life after death" was though him and only him. And he often demanded and encouraged changing people's minds, spreading the word and performing missions with little clarity or limits on how to do that.

There is a long history of Christians seeming to support any and all methods to "convert" anyone because they so strongly believe without Jesus is only death, thus allowing them to effect the now and the living so cruelly. Almost all colonization was done using the cloak of Christianity as an excuse to enslave, relocate and steal indigenous cultures. Often using the language of "spread the gospel" as it's primary fuel.


There is nothing in Christianity that makes men free from their folly and weaknesses. There will always be those that cloak their actions of self interest in terms of the greater good like when Neo-Socialists take another huge chunk of liberty away from the citizens while proclaiming "its for the children."
 
A beautiful love story? Are you ******* kidding me? It's a tale of brutal human sacrifice.
 
For all the "love and peace" the New Testament espouses, it is still much more exclusionary than the Old Testament.

The New Testament is defined by either believing in Jesus or not. You either accept him or not. And it lays out a litany of rewards if you do and damnation if you don't. For all the love and peace Jesus preached, he still made it very clear that the ONLY way to supposed "salvation" and "life after death" was though him and only him. And he often demanded and encouraged changing people's minds, spreading the word and performing missions with little clarity or limits on how to do that.

There is a long history of Christians seeming to support any and all methods to "convert" anyone because they so strongly believe without Jesus is only death, thus allowing them to effect the now and the living so cruelly. Almost all colonization was done using the cloak of Christianity as an excuse to enslave, relocate and steal indigenous cultures. Often using the language of "spread the gospel" as it's primary fuel.

While Christianity often followed the expansion of anglos, at least here in the U.S. I don't remember many times in history that it was the preeminent reason for expansion nor even many tales of expansion being couched as such. The Pilgrims came to escape religious persecution and yes they proselytized but they came to be free first and foremost. Same with the Jesuits that followed westward expansion......and while THEY may have seen Christianity as the reason for expansion, they were tag alongs. Johnny come lately's that exploited the real reasons for expansion, which again were freedom, in some cases greed and generally man's irrepressible need to "see what's over there."

A beautiful love story? Are you ******* kidding me? It's a tale of brutal human sacrifice.

Not nearly as brutal as reading your ****.
 
For all the "love and peace" the New Testament espouses, it is still much more exclusionary than the Old Testament.

The New Testament is defined by either believing in Jesus or not. You either accept him or not. And it lays out a litany of rewards if you do and damnation if you don't. For all the love and peace Jesus preached, he still made it very clear that the ONLY way to supposed "salvation" and "life after death" was though him and only him. And he often demanded and encouraged changing people's minds, spreading the word and performing missions with little clarity or limits on how to do that.

There is a long history of Christians seeming to support any and all methods to "convert" anyone because they so strongly believe without Jesus is only death, thus allowing them to effect the now and the living so cruelly. Almost all colonization was done using the cloak of Christianity as an excuse to enslave, relocate and steal indigenous cultures. Often using the language of "spread the gospel" as it's primary fuel.

More exclusionary than the Old Testament? I suppose that might be the case if you are one of The Chosen People. Otherwise not.
 
I thought Christianity taught that God created man in his image. That would mean that the Christian God created the Muslims as well.
 
The Old Testament is defined by the teaching of monotheism vs. polytheism prevalent at the time.

That and a sort of false, local family/culture history that could be traced back to Adam/Eve. When you read the Old Testament you get a sense of the time and how important knowing one's lineage through time DEFINED your family. Chosen, not-chosen had more to do with access to earthly things rather than after-death things. I think it left the door open to heaven just as long as you believed in one god and followed the 10 commandments and all that jazz. All the other archaic practices (just like much of the Quran) is about cleanliness, sanitation and procreation and how religion weaved what limited science they knew about those things into religious doctrine and practices.

Where religion really got off the tracks is when it decided to elevate a man into something greater. The idea of a "Messiah" is dangerous. Any belief that has the potential for a man to directly communicate with "God" opens up huge potential for misguided abuse.

I am strongly against Christianity and Islam for these reasons alone as their two religions are based on a Messiah. A person that either was conceived by God or directly communicated with God and each supposedly gaining access to "Power" (rise from the dead, miracles, et. al.) that normal humans don't have thus creating the foundation of belief in the supernatural and divine right.

Believing in the supernatural and believing that supernatural power comes from God special toward one group of people or believers is just ludicrous and dangerous ideology.

Because there is no other way to describe those things both Christianity and Islam promise their believers in exchange for service other than "Supernatural Powers". And it is always powers that are (for now) impossible to disprove by science and are purposely vague (how convenient).
 
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