Well, yeah, but elfiePolo has already brilliantly explained how the new testament was the blueprint for the Nazi's genocide, and how Christ's teachings - the sermon on the mount, the command "love your brother as you love yourself" - fully embraced war and genocide.
Oh, and how the Nazis - great Christians that they were - murdered millions of Christians, particularly in Poland.
Oh, and of course, Hitler was a practicing Christian whose Nazi state wholeheartedly supported Christianity.
Around a third of Germans were Catholic in the 1930s. The Church in Germany had spoken against the rise of Nazism, but the Catholic aligned Centre Party capitulated in 1933 and was banned. Several key Nazis, including Adolf Hitler, had been raised Catholic, but became hostile to the Church in adulthood. While Article 24 of the NSDAP party platform called for conditional toleration of Christian denominations and the 1933 Reichskonkordat treaty with the Vatican purported to guarantee religious freedom for Catholics, the Nazis were essentially hostile to Christianity and the Catholic Church faced persecution in Nazi Germany. Its press, schools and youth organisations were closed, much property confiscated and around one third of its clergy faced reprisals from authorities. Catholic lay leaders were targeted in the Night of the Long Knives purge. The Church hierarchy attempted to co-operate with the new government, but in 1937, the Papal Encyclical ‘’Mit brennender Sorge’’ accused the regime of "fundamental hostility" to the church.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany
Oh, oh, oh, and don't forget, Hitler hoped that Christianity prospered in his Nazi state. Indeed, Hitler was more concerned about protecting Christianity than in propagating his poisonous world view.
The religious views of Adolf Hitler are a matter of interest and debate. According to Alan Bullock, Hitler was a rationalist and a materialist "who believed neither in God nor in conscience."[1] Nonetheless, Hitler opportunistically employed the language of 'divine providence' in defence of his own myth.[2] Hitler was baptised and confirmed a Catholic in his youth, and raised by an anti-clerical father and practising Catholic mother. In adulthood, he became disdainful of Christianity, but retained some respect for the organisational power of the Church, and though he was prepared to delay clashes out of political considerations, according to Kershaw, Bullock, Evans, Fest, Phayer, Shirer and others, he eventually hoped to eradicate Christianity in Germany.[3] Prosecutors at the Nuremberg Trials submitted that Hitler engaged in a slow and cautious policy to eliminate Christianity.[4] Historians such as Fischel and Dill have written that if the regime could not eradicate Christianity, it hoped instead to subjugate or distort it to a Nazi world view.
So you were saying, elfiePolo?
I love living in your head, in your SIG(which you took out of context of course) and now living in the enjoyment of showing everyone what a clown you are.
You are some kind of masochist though, I'll give you that.
I said I didn't want to rehash this as I've handed you your *** on this subject before. Remember when you ran away after I posted those pics associating the Nazis with the church? Oh yeah..I'll do it again.
Remember when you threatened to report me to the owner of some website for forgetting to provide a link? That's how petty you become and also shows how pathetic you turn when your *** is handed to you.
So put your arms out, palms up.
First thing though since you like "cherry picking" like a true christian, let me include some of what you left out from your wiki article, which by the way is only on catholics in Germany. Our Protestant brethren who made up the bulk of the Nazi leadership were convinced of the role of Christianity in the Reich, but first back to the catholics for a moment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany
Mary Fulbrook wrote that when politics encroached on the church, Catholics were prepared to resist, but that the record was otherwise patchy and uneven, and that, with notable exceptions, "it seems that, for many Germans, adherence to the Christian faith proved compatible with at least passive acquiescence in, if not active support for, the Nazi dictatorship".
There are other passages in there that support me but I won't need them as I have the best source on the planet.
Of course that was just a wikipedia article. Let's now go to the preeminent authority according to his academic colleagues on Christianity and the Third Reich; Richard Steigman-Gall.
First let's quickly put an end to the idea that the Nazis were opportunists who used Christianity to manipulate the masses:
The following provides a few quotes from Hitler's henchmen and Nazi sympathizers and how Christianity molded and influenced their beliefs. Most of Hitler's henchmen, along with the vast majority of German citizens, were brought up Christian, and thought themselves as such. Remember that Germany gave birth to Protestantism and held a large but minority of Catholics. The fact that so many Nazis practiced the Christian faith should not surprise anyone, especially considering that Germany, at the time before and during Hitler's rise, represented the most Christianized country in the word. And except for a very few who rejected orthodox Christianity (like Bormann and Rosenberg), the majority used their influence (whether through belief or political action) to support both Catholicism and Protestantism views for the 'positive" Christianity of the new Nazi party platform.
Nor can one attempt to use the tired and false ploy of trying to put the Nazi expression of Christianity into a 'political only' framework to appeal to the masses. These Nazis fully believed in their religion no less than do conservative Christian politicians of the United States----Jim Walker
Now on to Gall
Indeed, none of the Nazis who proclaimed a positive attitude toward Christianity in public revealed themselves as anti-Christian in private. Therefore the insistence that the Nazis practiced "sheer opportunism" or placed a "tactical restraint" on their supposed hatred for Christianity "which had been imposed during the years of struggle to achieve power" cannot be sustained--- From the book, The Holy Reich, Richard Steigmann-Gall
Now let's look at what his fellow Nazis believed:
Helmut Bruckner
Bruckner served as the Gauletier of Silesia. According to Richard Steigmann-Gall's research, "Bruckner sent Gregor Strasser an internal "Special Circular" he had issued to his Gau [region] officials on the party's official church-political stance. Its contents became common knowledge once a copy came into the hands of the Kirchenrat and the papers Tagliche Rundschau and Christliche Welt. As a confidential document, however, it provides a glimpse into the Nazi's feelings about the institution of the Protestant Church" [Steigmann-Gall]:
We struggle for a union of the small Protestant state churches into a strong Protestant Reich Church.... We are acting not as a party, but as Protestant Christians who only follow a call to faith from God, which we here in our Volk movement. As true members of our church we have a legitimate claim to have appropriate consideration given to the greatness and inner strength of National Socialism in church life and the church administration.
-Helmut Brucker, "Richtlinien fur Kirchenfragen," Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf (10 Nov. 1932: Breslau), [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
Walter Buch
Buch served as Head of the Nazi Party court and Martin Bormann's father-in-law. Otto Wagener, Hitler's confidant in the Kampfzeit, named Buch as one of the only three men who "were prepared and in a position to tell Hitler their own views when they contradicted his." According to Richard Steigmann's research, Buch, a Lutheran, held his faith in high esteem and "maintained he was guided in his social thought by Martin Luther."
When Point 24 of our program says the party stands for a positive Christianity, here above all is the cornerstone of our thinking. Christ preached struggle as did no other. His life was struggle for his beliefs, for which he went to his death. From everyone he demanded a decision between yes and no.
-Walter Buch "Geist und Kampf" (speech): Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf (probably given between 1930 and 1932), [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
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Public need before private greed.... So important and meaningful is this phrase that Jesus Christ placed it in the center of his religious teaching. However, since Christ was not a politician, since his Reich was not of this world, he put the calling into other words. He taught: love your neighbors as yourself! National Socialism is therefore nothing new, nothing that a person after much consideration would not come upon as the solution to the economic plight of the Germans.
-Walter Buch Der Aufmasch, Blatter der deutschen Jugend 2 (January 1931), [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
Note, Point 24 refers to a section of the NSDAP party platform (the Nazi Constitution, so to speak) where it proclaims "positive Christianity" as one of its tenants.
Never more than in the last ten years has the truth behind Luther's words been more evident: "The family is the source of everyone's blessings and misforture."
-Walter Buch In a speech from 1932, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
The idea of eternal life, of which the Jew knows nothing, is just as characteristic of our Germanic forefathers as it was of Christ.
-Walter Buch Der Aufmarsch, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
When Luther turned his attention to the Jews, after he completed his translation of the Bible, he left behind "on the Jews and their Lies" for posterity.
-Walter Buch [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
This is Elfie interrupting your cognitive dissonance CONservatives. I want to add Luther's " on the Jews and their lies" here because I posted it the last time around when steel time was left looking like an alien cattle mutilation victim (both rectum and tiny I.q. exposed), yet it seems to have been CONveniently forgotten. It firmly establishes one of the roots of German generational antisemitism. And it comes from the founder of Protestantism.
Here are some excerpts:
I had made up my mind to write no more either about the Jews or against them. But since I learned that these miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil is the god of the world, and wherever God's word is absent he has an easy task, not only with the weak but also with the strong. May God help us. Amen
...Christ and his word can hardly be recognized because of the great vermin of human ordinances. However, let this suffice for the time being on their lies against doctrine or faith
No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.
...but then eject them forever from this country. For, as we have heard, God's anger with them is so intense that gentle mercy will only tend to make them worse and worse, while sharp mercy will reform them but little. Therefore, in any case, away with them!-----Martin Luther
Hmmmm.. I wonder where the Nazis got their ideas from? Hmmmm.,,. It must have been Norse Paganism....yeah gotta be.
You can read the whole thing here if you are a seeker of truth(I.e. not CONservative)
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Luther_on_Jews.html
Now back to Gall quoting Walter Buch(big fan of Luther) :
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Many people confess their amazement that Hitler preaches ideas which they have always held.... From the Middle Ages we can look to the same example in Martin Luther. What stirred in the soul and spirit of the German people of that time, finally found expression in his person, in his words and deeds.
-Walter Buch "Geist und Kampf" (speech), Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
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Luther's eloquent words,"the intellect is the Devil's *****," confirm my belief that the human spirit of the greatest magnitude is too small to alter the laws of life. And the highest law of life is struggle.... Nothing comes from "yes, but [Zwar-Aber].
-Walter Buch written to a friend in 1929, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
One last quote from Rudolf Buttman to show that the argument that will be made next from one of you will be that the Nazis were Darwinists/eugenicts. I think someone mentioned it earlier, go ahead and be foolish enough to bring it up, I will be glad to crush you..., if I haven't already.
Our worldview is not directed against Cathoicism or Protestantism, not against Christianity, but rather based on Christianity and against cultural bolshevism, against the false liberalism of the Enlightenment, and against materialism.
-Rudolf Buttmann,Volkischer Beobachter, 5 Jan. 1931, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
There are about a million instances of the Nazis sharing their love of Christianity at this link which you can read if you are of the masochist ilk.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/henchmen.htm
Steel time is going to now claim that I am not addressing his point which is a straw man. He wants me to show him where in the New Tes. It supports the Nazi doctrine.
I never made that claim. I said the Muslim fascists learned well from their christian brothers in the Reich, who's hatred was fostered by the church. Look at my earlier posts.
I've provided unequivocal proof of that.
If Christians want to disown the Nazis ,They can't. Just like American Christians can't disown 90% of the prison population(christian) just because the committed immoral acts. They are still saved, they are still christian,..right? YOU OWN THEM just like you try to make the decent Muslims own their scumbags on this forum full of bigots everyday.
Now on to picture time since I know most of you CONservatives have a hard time with reading comprehension, probably just reading in general.
Hitler leaving church
Hitler at Nazi party rally
Note the "Church of our Lady" in the background as if it represented the foundation of the party. Photo taken in Nuremberg, Germany (circa 1928).
Church & State
Hitler in front of "Church of our Lady" in Nuremberg, Sept. 1934. Photographer, Heinrich Hoffmann
The Göring Wedding
Only Christians perform Christian weddings, and the Nazis were no exception.
Hermann Göring married Emmy Sonnemann, a famous Opera star.
Adolf Hitler stands in the front row as "Best Man" during the ceremony in the Cathedral by Reichbishop M�ller.
Hitler's Brown Army attending and leaving church services. These photos were published by Nazis during Hitler's reign.
A Nazi flag flies in front of the Cologne Cathedral, 1937
Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler
Note Joseph Goebbels (far right) and Wilhelm Frick (second from right)
Catholic Service for Nazis
It is finished,,.......literally....Oh wait! Maybe not, more pics below. It's like the second coming!
