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Sorry Tibs, but I respectfully disagree. To me there is no moral equivalency between those standing in opposition to and protesting lifting one race - the black race - above all other races. Even if some of the protestors - in this case the KKK - have crossed the line and committed violence in the past. They were wrong to do so and should be condemned for it. But that does NOT put them on the same moral plane as BLM who represent escalating levels of bigotry and have made public calls to "kill all white people". We will just have to agree to disagree on this.

see how this is, Tibs?
 
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no.

was Kaepernick denied his freedom of speech in doing his disrespectful act? no
were those signs torn down and those pussyhat wearing snowflakes denied their FA rights? no
were those Starbucks cups removed? no

the only similarity is all four images were disgusting
 
Ha ha, **** you Lindsey!

President Trump fired back Thursday at Senate Republicans who have criticized his response to the Charlottesville violence, pointedly accusing Sen. Lindsey Graham of a “disgusting lie” for saying the president drew a “moral equivalency” between white supremacists and those who protested them.

“Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists … and people like Ms. Heyer. Such a disgusting lie. He just can't forget his election trouncing.The people of South Carolina will remember!” Trump tweeted.
 
What are the sources for this story. I Googled it and all I found was Alex Jones.

loosen your man bun, then re-read it. slowly. sound out the multi-syllabic words.
 
Here's a question I have -- to everyone here.

Do these statues offend you because of your own beliefs or because someone told you you should be offended?

Reason I ask... in most cases, when I walk past a statue in the park, I just see a statue in the park.

Do you take notice of it and what it represents -- or what the artist says it represents? Does a statue actually stop you in your tracks and make you think about history?

It's really never made much difference to me... outside of the Statue of Liberty and the Lincoln Memorial.
 
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments/

It turns out Lee himself opposed any confederate statues. It was his belief that any remembrances from a civil war delay the healing process,
prolong the bad feelings and ill will. He was correct big-time.

It's nice to see how passionate you are about this new found belief you didn't have this day last week.

Ever heard of the Winter Palace in Russia? An opulent palace of massive wealth. When the Bolsheviks revolted, and won...they stormed the palace but refused to destroy any of it...instead wanting to leave the palace behind as a) a reminder to the people of the evil that once ruled and the opulence in which they lived as a result of the people's hard work, and b) and to leave it to the people who's hard work had built it.

When you hide demons and evil reminders of the past in the closet, eventually you forget the demons ever existed. Funny then...a few generations later...those demons reappear.

Reminders are good. Rewriting history is very very bad.
 
Brennan Gilmore tweeted out a video of the horrific car attack on Saturday by white supremacist James Alex Fields. His tweet went viral and soon after, he was interviewed by MSNBC. The New York Times included Gilmore's comments in their report, but then later removed the quotes.

Brennan Gilmore was Chief of Staff for liberal Rep. Tom Perrielo.

Perrielo was given $385,000 from George Soros.

And by happenstance, Brennan Gilmore just happened to be in Charlottesville with the rioters.
 
Here's a question I have -- to everyone here.

Do these statues offend you because of your own beliefs or because someone told you you should be offended?

Reason I ask... in most cases, when I walk past a statue in the park, I just see a statue in the park.

Do you take notice of it and what it represents -- or what the artist says it represents? Does a statue actually stop you in your tracks and make you think about history?

It's really never made much difference to me... outside of the Statue of Liberty and the Lincoln Memorial.

Do you walk by them and think "Wow, Robert E. Lee, what am American hero. Glad we're honoring him." Or do you look at it as a historical artifact. I always thought of them as the latter. I mean, we don't tear down Auschwitz.

Of course neither do we talk about how beautiful it is like Trump did today. It's a horrific, ugly part of history, but it is part of history.

He just can't stop digging.
 
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Here's a question I have -- to everyone here.

Do these statues offend you because of your own beliefs or because someone told you you should be offended?

Reason I ask... in most cases, when I walk past a statue in the park, I just see a statue in the park.

Do you take notice of it and what it represents -- or what the artist says it represents? Does a statue actually stop you in your tracks and make you think about history?

It's really never made much difference to me... outside of the Statue of Liberty and the Lincoln Memorial.

pretty much, they are just there, to me. I don't put too much thought and reasoning behind it why it's there. More than likely, it was there way before me and will be there long after I'm gone. Maybe because I'm not a history buff or just try to live my life the only way I know how, for today and tomorrow. They are just images in the landscape.
A month or two ago In Brookline(PA), a public bus rammed into a cannon that has been a landmark there for a very long time. As long as I've been alive, it's been there. It upset a lot of people that it was damaged and removed. It has been a fixture of the small town, but I couldn't tell you what war it represents. That's how much I pay attention to memorials and statues, but I realize others do care for their own personal reasons. They mean something to everyone in a different way.
 
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Sound minds prevail. What really went down.

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When Liberals Club People, It’s With Love In Their Hearts


Apparently, as long as violent leftists label their victims “fascists,” they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody. No police officer will stop them. They have carte blanche to physically assault anyone they disapprove of, including Charles Murray, Heather Mac Donald, Ben Shapiro, me and Milo Yiannopoulos, as well as anyone who wanted to hear us speak.

Even far-left liberals like Evergreen State professor Bret Weinstein will be stripped of police protection solely because the mob called him a “racist.”

If the liberal shock troops deem local Republicans “Nazis” — because some of them support the duly elected Republican president — Portland will cancel the annual Rose Festival parade rather than allow any Trump supporters to march.

They’re all “fascists”! Ipso facto, the people cracking their skulls and smashing store windows are “anti-fascists,” or as they call themselves, “antifa.”

We have no way of knowing if the speakers at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally last weekend were “Nazis,” “white supremacists” or passionate Civil War buffs, inasmuch as they weren’t allowed to speak. The Democratic governor shut the event down, despite a court order to let it proceed.

We have only visuals presented to us by the activist media, showing some participants with Nazi paraphernalia. But for all we know, the Nazi photos are as unrepresentative of the rally as that photo of the drowned Syrian child is of Europe’s migrant crisis. Was it 1 percent Nazi or 99 percent Nazi?

As the “Unite the Right” crowd was dispersing, they were forced by the police into the path of the peace-loving, rock-throwing, fire-spraying antifa. A far-left reporter for The New York Times, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, tweeted live from the event: “The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.”

That’s when protestor James Fields sped his car into a crowd of the counter-protesters, then immediately hit reverse, injuring dozens of people, and killing one woman, Heather Heyer.

This has been universally labeled “terrorism,” but we still don’t know whether Fields hit the gas accidentally, was in fear for his life or if he rammed the group intentionally and maliciously.

With any luck, we’ll unravel Fields’ motives faster than it took the Obama administration to discern the motives of a Muslim shouting “Allahu Akbar!” while gunning down soldiers at Fort Hood. (Six years.)

But so far, all we know is that Fields said he was “upset about black people” and wanted to kill as many as possible. On his Facebook page, he displayed a “White Power” poster and “liked” three organizations deemed “white separatist hate groups” by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A subsequent search of his home turned up bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics.

Actually, none of that is true. The paragraph above describes, down to the letter, what was known about Micah Xavier Johnson, the black man who murdered five Dallas cops a year ago during a Black Lives Matter demonstration. My sole alteration to the facts is reversing the words “black” and “white.”

President Obama held a news conference the next day to say it’s “very hard to untangle the motives.” The New York Times editorialized agnostically that many “possible motives will be ticked off for the killer.” (One motive kind of sticks out like a sore thumb to me.)

In certain cases, the media are quite willing to jump to conclusions. In others, they seem to need an inordinate amount of time to detect motives.


The media think they already know all there is to know about James Fields, but they also thought they knew all about the Duke lacrosse players, “gentle giant” Michael Brown and those alleged gang-rapists at the University of Virginia.

Waiting for facts is now the “Nazi” position.

Liberals have Republicans over a barrel because they used the word “racist.” The word is kryptonite, capable of turning the entire GOP and 99 percent of the “conservative media” into a panicky mass of cowardice.

This week, Mitt Romney and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) — among others — instructed us that masked liberals hitting people with baseball bats are pure of heart — provided they first label the likes of Charles Murray or some housewife in a “MAGA” hat “fascists.”

Luckily, the week before opening fire on Republicans, critically injuring House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, Bernie Sanders-supporter James Hodgkinson had used the vital talisman, calling the GOP “fascist.” So you see, he wasn’t trying to commit mass murder! He was just fighting “Nazis.” Rubio and Romney will be expert witnesses.

And let’s recall the response of Hillary Clinton to the horrifying murder of five Dallas cops last year. The woman who ran against Trump displayed all the moral blindness currently being slanderously imputed to him.

In an interview on CNN about the slaughter that had taken place roughly 12 hours earlier, Hillary barely paused to acknowledge the five dead officers — much less condemn the shooting — before criticizing police for their “implicit bias” six times in about as many minutes.

What she really wanted to talk about were the two recent police shootings of black men in Baton Rouge and Minneapolis, refusing to contradict Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton’s claim that the Minneapolis shooting was based on racism.

Officers in both cases were later found innocent of any wrongdoing. Either the left has had a really bad streak of luck on their police brutality cases, or bad cops are a lot rarer than they think.

Some people would not consider the mass murder of five white policemen by an anti-cop nut in the middle of a BLM protest a good jumping-off point for airing BLM’s delusional complaints about the police. It would be like responding to John Hinckley Jr.’s attempted murder of President Reagan by denouncing Jodie Foster for not dating him.

Or, to bring it back to Charlottesville, it would be as if Trump had responded by expounding on the kookiest positions of “Unite the Right” — just as Hillary’s response echoed the paranoid obsessions of the cop-killer. Trump would have quickly skipped over the dead girl and railed against black people, Jews and so on.

That is the precise analogy to what Hillary did as the bodies of five Dallas cops lay in the morgue.

Thank God Donald J. Trump is our president, and not Mitt Romney, not Marco Rubio and not that nasty woman.
 
Do you walk by them and think "Wow, Robert E. Lee, what am American hero. Glad we're honoring him." Or do you look at it as a historical artifact. I always thought of them as the latter. I mean, we don't tear down Auschwitz.

Of course neither do we talk about how beautiful it is like Trump did today. It's a horrific, ugly part of history, but it is part of history.

He just can't stop digging.

I never gave any of them much thought. I mean, yeah, if I go to DC or something to look at historical stuff, sure, there may be some reverence.

But like, when the NFL is on, and they show a picture of the Washington Monument (for example), I am thinking I would prefer if they just got back to football.

As far as Trump digging, he is an idiot. This is what idiots do. If the guy was being attacked and given a gun to defend himself, I am convinced he would shoot himself in order not to give his attacker the satisfaction.
 
I never gave any of them much thought. I mean, yeah, if I go to DC or something to look at historical stuff, sure, there may be some reverence.

But like, when the NFL is on, and they show a picture of the Washington Monument (for example), I am thinking I would prefer if they just got back to football.

As far as Trump digging, he is an idiot. This is what idiots do. If the guy was being attacked and given a gun to defend himself, I am convinced he would shoot himself in order not to give his attacker the satisfaction.

Wow, that so true and funny! "I shot myself in the head to not to give the punk the satisfaction! Winning!"

yea, I feel the same way, unless I am on a tour to see the monuments in DC or Gettysburg, I have tunnel vision.
 
I have never seen a person be his own worst enemy this way before. It is like he enjoys the attention regardless of whether or not it is positive or negative. Just pay attention to me.

And would somebody please cancel his twitter account? Sheesh.
 
Brennan Gilmore tweeted out a video of the horrific car attack on Saturday by white supremacist James Alex Fields. His tweet went viral and soon after, he was interviewed by MSNBC. The New York Times included Gilmore's comments in their report, but then later removed the quotes.

Brennan Gilmore was Chief of Staff for liberal Rep. Tom Perrielo.

Perrielo was given $385,000 from George Soros.

And by happenstance, Brennan Gilmore just happened to be in Charlottesville with the rioters.

We already know that the conflict was staged by Soros. Perhaps the driver was paid in Soros money to do it.
 
I have never seen a person be his own worst enemy this way before. It is like he enjoys the attention regardless of whether or not it is positive or negative. Just pay attention to me.

And would somebody please cancel his twitter account? Sheesh.

when someone said "bad publicity is better than no publicity", he took it the wrong way. Maybe if you are an entertainer or business owner, but NOT the POTUSA.
 
I have never seen a person be his own worst enemy this way before. It is like he enjoys the attention regardless of whether or not it is positive or negative. Just pay attention to me.

And would somebody please cancel his twitter account? Sheesh.

I still do not have any problem with anything that he has said about last Saturday. It was all true. The apeshit media get all hysterical and twists little partial clips to fit their motives.
 
I still do not have any problem with anything that he has said about last Saturday. It was all true.

So you agree that "very fine people" marched along side the Nazis and White Supremacist? There's nothing wrong with that?
 
uh-oh, the actual truth is slipping out


NBC and the BBC: There were violent left-wing protesters in Charlottesville


Both NBC News and the BBC have put out videos offering fact-checks on some of President Trump’s claims about what took place in Charlottesville. Both agree there were violent anti-fascist protesters who came to the protest looking for a fight.

NBC: "Since the weekend, witnesses have told us that in fact, both sides were antagonizing for a fight,"; NBC's Tom Costello says. Later, the report shows a clip of Trump's Tuesday press conference in which he said, "What about the alt-left? What about the fact that they came charging ... with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs?" Costello's narration continues, "In fact, that's true. Witnesses tell NBC News there were people on both sides who seemed ready for a fight and some counter-protesters were armed with clubs, some with pepper spray."

BBC: "After playing a clip of Trump’s press conference, Gunter continued, "Trump is right. There was violence on both sides. I saw counter-protesters throw bottles, rocks and paint and clash with the white supremacists. Both sides sprayed pepper spray.

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http://hotair.com/archives/2017/08/16/nbc-bbc-violent-left-wing-protesters-charlottesville/
 
So you agree that "very fine people" marched along side the Nazis and White Supremacist? There's nothing wrong with that?

You have a problem that they marched at all.

AntiFA, BLM, Refuse Fascism, CrimethInc, and the Workers World Party tried to stop their protest and snuff out their voice. Therefore, they are heroes to you and Tibs. Just admit it, you hate the Right to Free speech. It only applies to voices you agree with.

Why shouldn't the Nazis, KKK, et all have been allowed to march? It's their right. I oppose them. I abhor them. But I support their right to Free Speech.

What if murdering abortionists staged a protest and marched and Alt Right Pro Lifers show up armed and ready to fight? Are these Pro Lifers who had the courage to go toe to toe with murdering abortionists heroes like AntiFA is to you and Tibs? Wouldn't they courageously be standing up to the hideous and heinous acts of child murder? What could be more noble?
 
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