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Just think if he just stayed out the way. He'd probably win playoff games and go to sbs
Wait, that's exactly what used to happen!!!!
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Wait, that's exactly what used to happen!!!!
I felt 10-7 after the Eagles debacle, and nothing changed that yesterday.......
The AFC North title went out the window yesterday too. Just forget it and do what you have to do to have the best chance of winning a playoff game this year. And this team, in its current condition isn't going anywhere in the playoffs. They should rest anyone and everyone that has so much as a hangnail the last two weeks.
But they won't.
The AFC North title went out the window yesterday too. Just forget it and do what you have to do to have the best chance of winning a playoff game this year. And this team, in its current condition isn't going anywhere in the playoffs. They should rest anyone and everyone that has so much as a hangnail the last two weeks.
But they won't.
I want to hear if you like it.
Very frustrating for sure. This was was on Russ. The two obvious turnovers. Tacking was poor. But they do sell out NOT to have Lamar beat them!
Need to get healthy. If we won yesterday, we probably locked in to 3rd seed and nothing to play for the next few weeks.
Need to get healthy. If we won yesterday, we probably locked in to 3rd seed and nothing to play for the next few weeks.
"Coach Mike, what do you say about the last two games, the pending middling record for a team that will back into the playoffs and almost certainly get routed in the first round again?"
it is different
i'm no whiskey expert but there is a lot going on with this bottle
smokey, peppery, bit of fruity flavor then the aftertaste of minty smokieness again
I like it
Yeah, but does everyone know that Mike Tomlin has never, ever had a losing season?
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How about the defense that got shredded on the ground and let Lamar pass at will when they couldn't pressure him? They absolutely do not get a pass.
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Mike being feeble minded is far from a dumb criticism. He is was he is..lacks ability to manage a roster’s health, has little knowledge of X’s and O’s and his players literally need to overcome him and DRAG him to a playoff. He is the human hurdle. Those other teams have QBs sure…a few of them also have very solid coaches that compliment the team in a symbiotic relationship instead of being a high hurdle to their team’s success…BIG difference
Bash your head against the wall if ya want, nobody stopping ya
But it won’t make Mike less feeble minded or need a DRAGGING to success any less than he already requires
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Bullshiit. Symbiotic? For the love. Andy Reid was everything we all gripe about Mike Tomlin in Philly. They ran him out on a rail! All the sudden he gets Patrick Mahomes and boom! he's a genius. Great players make coaches great. Look, argue with me all you want. Chuck Noll said it all the time, which is why he never got much credit and may be why he never won coach of the year. You'd think Chuck knew what the hell he was talking about.
Dammit, Mike Tomlin pisses me off too. But c'mon. How about this. If the latest genius, Andy Reid, who I think is great by the way, no disrespect to him, but if he was coaching the Steelers the last two games, do you really think the outcome would have been different? Right now the Eagles and Ravens are just better. They have better players overall. That usually wins in the end. And yes, when Mike Tomlin had better players he lost when he shouldn't have. But that doesn't apply these last two games.
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Exactly. What Pickens does forces a secondary to play completely differently allowing the run game to get going, allowing other guys to get open not because of their ability, but because of coverage. If you had an actual NFL receiver across Pickens that is not a Tomlin fascination with midgets candidate, or a guy that is slightly above OK(Williams) but can't learn the playbook you would really have something....but mediocrity is the standard and boy do we meet it.
Wait, whaaaaaat?!?!?! I had never heard that! My God, that changes EV-ERY-THING!!
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I mean never.
what were your thoughts on it?
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Reid was losing in the nfc champiomship games yearly. If you want to compare him to Cowher sure. Tomlin....not so much.
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You also have to add in that Reid seems to bring in high quality assistants and has a whole better scheme overall. Reid also wouldn’t have taken Kenny ****-ed up Pickett in the 1st round either. Reid also proved he’d draft Creed Humphrey to build a future with.
You get the drift and I’m currently operating Peyote free, but for how long is negotiable.
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Meh bullshit
Mike is stupid, too stupid to have player management figured out 17 years in
Certified insane moron that keeps repeating the same mistakes
Andy learned and has been much better his entire career than dumbass Mike
Stack their records side by side
It ain’t even close
Mediocre moron Mike don’t stand up far enough to hold his jock
He also pushed to trade up to get Patrick Mahomes, in a draft where teams voluntarily passed on Mahomes to draft Mitchell Trubisky, Solomon Thomas, Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross, etc.
Some coaches have great players and eke out wins and then get run out of the playoffs in the early rounds. The 2014 Steelers had a HOF QB who threw for 4952 yards and 32 TD's, an elite RB who average 4.7 yards per carry and put up more than 2200 yards from scrimmage, the best WR in football who posted 1700 receiving yards and 13 TD's, an excellent TE who put up more than 750 receiving yards, a couple of talented pass rushers, a very good young DT who had 7.5 sacks ... and lost to a terrible 4-12 Jets team, was mauled by a 7-9 Browns team, lost to a 2-14 Tampa Bay team that was astonishingly bad, made the playoffs and then got blown out in the first playoff game.
Losses to absolutely terrible teams that cost a division title, a talented team that is mauled in the playoffs ... known as a "Mike Tomlin special."
His offensive planning and ability to put together a good defense from guys not highly thought of make me say "yes."
When was the last time an Andy Reid team lost to a team at least 8 games under .500? Tomlin has done just that three times in two years. The idea that Andy Reid and Mike Tomlin are remotely comparable is just not credible.
THAT is the entire ******* issue. First, if a team has better players overall (but where the Steelers have the best pass rusher on the field and the best safety and the best TE and arguably the best defensive lineman), then losing is one thing; getting ***-raped twice in a row is another.
Second, the endless series of losses to dreadful teams is just not acceptable any more. It isn't. Losses to the wretched Cowboys, Colts and Clowns account for the current problems. Fact.
Again, in any contest where Tomlin does not have a massive advantage in player talent, he gets mauled; where he has that massive advantage in talent, he very often loses to dogshit opponents and squeaks out nail-biters in most others.
And then gets blown out in the playoffs.
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1st paragraph true-Our offensive MVP is missed, no denying that. But most of Russ’ success even with GP came at the expense of tomato cans
2nd paragraph false- very probable like 99% more probable JF able to run better vs both those teams than Russ…alas he was not in this game tho cuz he was inactive/injured as dumbass Mike didn’t take the Eagle game for the bye week it should have been. Instead he gets 3 key players hurt in an almost zero impact game.
3rd paragraph- yes GP and Elliot were out heading into Eagles, and had Mike taken it for the bye week it should have been we don’t lose JF, DJ and get Watt injured…he sucks at load management. There is a reason his guys are always on the sidelines by the playoffs. Its cuz he’s as dumb as a box of rocks and doesn’t learn. With those 3 guys rested and ready as well as a giving a break for several other key players we likely beat the Rats. It’s called coaching, Mike should learn about it someday.
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Reid is on a different level than Tomlin. No doubt about that.
i never had it! They dont sell it around here. I read about it.
you should move to where the good whiskey is
I would take Andy Reid in a heartbeat over Mike Tomlin. Let's be clear. All of us would. But let's not rewrite history. Would we have taken him when Philly ran him after 2012? I don't recall any great groundswell of support around here for bringing in Andy Reid at that time. And that's the point. Andy Reid became a genius when they drafted a truly generational QB. That term gets thrown around, but there is franchise and generational. Mahomes is generational.
I am not comparing Andy Reid and Mike Tomlin. I am taking umbrage with the idea that only Mike Tomlin needs to be dragged to a championship. I believe all coaches need to be dragged along to some degree or another. One, they don't play, and that is kinda a big part of things. Secondly, talent is what wins. Why do you guys just blow off what the most successful coache in Steeler history said on the topic? He acknowledged that fact all the time.
Again, it isn't that I disagree with you all that Mike Tomlin should be gone. I do. I think in the frustration over the losses and the frustration over not seeing anything change arguments are made that leave some wide open space to be disputed. This is one of them, IMO.
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Sure. 2024 Andy Reid.
What about 2012 Andy Reid?
And what of Andy Reid without Patrick Mahomes?
Again, Andy is great. I'd take him over Tomlin any day. But a guy like Mahomes improves your learning curve.
So you are proposing a coach, in Week 14 of a season, have his team lay up in a game? What the hell kind of message does that send? Has any other coach that you know of done that...in Week 14 of a 17 game season? I don't recall anything like that and I think that shows that no NFL football coach would call that coaching.1st paragraph true-Our offensive MVP is missed, no denying that. But most of Russ’ success even with GP came at the expense of tomato cans
2nd paragraph false- very probable like 99% more probable JF able to run better vs both those teams than Russ…alas he was not in this game tho cuz he was inactive/injured as dumbass Mike didn’t take the Eagle game for the bye week it should have been. Instead he gets 3 key players hurt in an almost zero impact game.
3rd paragraph- yes GP and Elliot were out heading into Eagles, and had Mike taken it for the bye week it should have been we don’t lose JF, DJ and get Watt injured…he sucks at load management. There is a reason his guys are always on the sidelines by the playoffs. Its cuz he’s as dumb as a box of rocks and doesn’t learn. With those 3 guys rested and ready as well as a giving a break for several other key players we likely beat the Rats. It’s called coaching, Mike should learn about it someday.
