Iran's response ... missile attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq

[Tim Steelersfan]

A conclusion followed by a question mark?

Its what I am asking Patreaus, Coward Tim, and Confluence.

I've responded to you after you hit me with a death wish, dipshit.

You've not replied. Who you calling coward? I'll put it all here, AGAIN.

SpongeBob Chicken said: Killing Bin Laden > killing Solewhateverthefuck 10X. You say nothing to limit the range or scope of your bold incorrect claim. No mention of "on US soil" or other qualifier. So now you're changing the parameters of the claim, late in a blowout, to save face. Your claim isn't even close.

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Wanted to dig a little bit deeper into this, you claiming killing Bin Laden was greater than killing Soleimani. I notice you back pedaled trying to creating new tenets for your argument, like the idea of US soil being a parameter. Comical. The statement made was killing Bin Laden was greater than killing Soleimani - without qualifications or boundaries.

I countered, correctly, that taking the top military leader of a state sponsor of terror is greater/will have a greater impact. Me thinks you need a history lesson. The reach and influence of Iran on global terrorism far surpassed anything Bin Laden could have dreamed of. Iran, and Soleimani, have spent 3 decades together driving global terrorism. The death count can't be measured.

* . Since the fall of the Shah in 1979, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has grown and worked to spread terrorism globally. They train and fund terrorist organizations. They have hundreds of thousands of members, a Navy, and the Quds Force that trains Islamic militants. They have worked with the Japanese Red Army, the Armenian Secret Army, the Kurdistan Workers' Party, the Iraqi Da'wah Party, the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Bahrain and Hezbollah in Beirut . They provide support for Hamas, Hezbollah and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Israel, training terrorists supporting the Palestinian resistance and aiding the Iraqi insurgency in southern Iraq.

Can anyone tally up how many people lost their lives as a result of 4 decades of those efforts?

* . Iran is documented to have conducted or fomented terrorism in all of the following non-Iranian countries: Afghanistan, Albania, Argentina, Bahrain, Germany, India, Israel (Hamas and Hezbollah), Iraq (Shi'ite militias), Kenya, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, France, Denmark, the United States and more.

* . Iran has historically been moderately to deeply connected to Al Queda. Iran was/is directly involved in the 1988 World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole bombing, the Riyadh bombings, supporting the Taliban in Afghanistan

* . Iran has carried out innumerable international assassinations

* . They sponsored at least 30 terrorist activities between 2011-2013 in international countries around the globe.

* In 2011, they were foiled attempting to murder the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the US and bomb the Israeli and Saudi embassies in Washington D.C.

 

[Troglodyte]

oh, I see where you're coming from.

your stance is that since these 600 American lives were not 3,000 civilian, that they are less.

Fixed it for you since you conveniently left out the most relevant details.

 

[Steelworth]

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the divisiveness.

While I hear you 100%, it's pretty difficult to feel any unity with people who are so out of their minds with hate for this President that they actually side with a terror state over American servicemen and women etc.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

While I hear you 100%, it's pretty difficult to feel any unity with people who are so out of their minds with hate for this President that they actually side with a terror state over American servicemen and women etc.

Or call you a racist or Nazi for having the gall to disagree with them. I try very hard to have rational civil discourse with people and find common ground. It is almost impossible these days. If you don’t agree with their dogma 100% you are pure evil.


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[ZonaBurgh]

Fixed it for you since you conveniently left out the most relevant details.

Yes, yes, yes, 3,000 is more than 600.

So what number of lives would have to be taken before you would support the President in responding? 800?, a thousand?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Yes, yes, yes, 3,000 is more than 600.

So what number of lives would have to be taken before you would support the President in responding? 800?, a thousand?

That isn't his point. His heels are dug in because he stated killing Bin Laden was greater than killing Soleimani. And by God, he's gonna try to win that argument, rationale be damned.

 

[Superman]

Yes, yes, yes, 3,000 is more than 600.

So what number of lives would have to be taken before you would support the President in responding? 800?, a thousand?

skin color. if the POTUS is blackish, Flog is down. if the POTUS is more Mango/Orange, Flog hates.
Flog's a stupid ****. Don't be like Flog.

 

[Sarge]

So the death of 600 servicemen on foreign soil is worse than the death of 3,000 citizens on U.S. soil?

I don't believe that any thinking person would arrive at this conclusion. Further, I can't see where one is worse than the other. If these terrorist scumbags kill one American, Soldier or civilian, it's too many.

But then, I'm not here arguing which President took out the bigger threat, considering all either of them did was listen to the plan drawn up by military officers and said "Do it." The real bad ***** executed. Some of you need to look elsewhere for heroes.

 

[Superman]

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Lol. She is racist against orange people.

 

[Steelworth]

I don't believe that any thinking person would arrive at this conclusion. Further, I can't see where one is worse than the other. If these terrorist scumbags kill one American, Soldier or civilian, it's too many.

But then, I'm not here arguing which President took out the bigger threat, considering all either of them did was listen to the plan drawn up by military officers and said "Do it." The real bad ***** executed. Some of you need to look elsewhere for heroes.

This. All of this.

 

[Troglodyte]

While I hear you 100%, it's pretty difficult to feel any unity with people who are so out of their minds with hate for this President that they actually side with a terror state over American servicemen and women etc.

A penny for your thoughts regarding Tammy Duckworth’s response to Doug Collins’ recent comments?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

A penny for your thoughts regarding Tammy Duckworth’s response to Doug Collins’ recent comments?

Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), a former Army lieutenant colonel who lost both her legs in Iraq, ripped Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.) Thursday for comments he made the day before that Democrats are “in love with terrorists.”

“I'm not going to dignify that with a response. I left parts of my body in Iraq fighting terrorists. I don't need to justify myself to anyone,” Duckworth said on “CNN Right Now.”

Not sure I have a problem with Collins' remarks. I do have a problem that, as a society, we have devolved into generalizing everyone we oppose as such and I'm not a fan. But in today's day and age, to the Left, everyone on the right is labeled a misogynist, racist, xenophobe, homophobe and a deplorable, among countless others. We see this here. We see it on TV.

Since we live in a day and age where the MSM and Hollywood mass lumps every Conservative in such buckets, I take exception to the Left's reaction when it's done to them in kind. Sorry if it hurts.

Collins' remarks hurt and given the current environment, I say "so what, this is the bed you've made, lay in it." 20 years ago, I wouldn't have felt this way.

Now, to Collins' point, Democrats HAVE done much to warrant the label:

• They did ship $1.5Billion to Iran, as they shouted Death to America
• Democrats have further distanced themselves from Israel
• Obama did draw an imaginary line in the sand, that he let Assad cross, leading to the deaths of thousands of civilians
• Every time there is a terror attack, Liberals rush to the defense of radical Islam in politics and in the MSM. Let's not rush to judgment (as they surmise and offer theories that it was a white nationalist before they get it wrong)
• Anytime there was a domestic terror attack by a Muslim, Obama's Administration did label it "work place violence," refusing to call it radical Islamic terrorism
• The Washington Post DID label Al Baghdadi an "austere religious leader"
• With every global terrorist attack during Obama's regime, he and the Liberal establishment absolutely refused to call terrorism the result of radical Islam
• Democrats in debates, in front of the camera - anywhere - to the person - work extremely hard not to tie Islamic terrorist attacks to Islam, despite it being just that

These are just a few examples off the top of my head. If you don't want to be called a racist, don't act racist. If you don't want to be labeled a terrorist defender...don't defend and/or support them.

 

[Steelworth]

A penny for your thoughts regarding Tammy Duckworth’s response to Doug Collins’ recent comments?

I've been on the road much of the day and haven't been paying much attention to anything, clue me in.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

A penny for your thoughts regarding Tammy Duckworth’s response to Doug Collins’ recent comments?

He got his *** handed to him and was told to “yo better make it better”. He didn’t say anything wrong. What he said was fact. At what point did it become a sin to be an “American”. At what point did it become wrong to support American lives over those that take them.

I view myself as a human fist and foremost. American after that. The fact that Dems, hollyweeds have made that **** a saint duck then and he was right

 

[SteelChip]

The fact that Dems, hollyweeds have made that **** a saint duck then and he was right

 

[Tibs]

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the divisiveness.

While I hear you 100%, it's pretty difficult to feel any unity with people who are so out of their minds with unbridled love for this President that they actually side with a failed casino tycoon over American servicemen and women.

 

[Tibs]

I've responded to you after you hit me with a death wish, dipshit.

How quickly we turn into snowflakes. Hurt feelings after spending the better part of the past three years relentlessly insulting posters on this board who disagree with you politically.

Triple layered, bank sector-strong glass used to build the glass biodome on this board. You can't break it throwing a brick at it from the inside... so thick, hypocritical and filled with irony.

 

[hamster]

While I hear you 100%, it's pretty difficult to feel any unity with people who are so out of their minds with unbridled love for this President that they actually side with a failed casino tycoon over American servicemen and women.

Tibs, these are the kind of posts that get you in trouble. Almost everyone here sides with our military. Where do you come up with this ****?

 

[Steelin]

How quickly we turn into snowflakes. Hurt feelings after spending the better part of the past three years relentlessly insulting posters on this board who disagree with you politically.

Triple layered, bank sector-strong glass used to build the glass biodome on this board. You can't break it throwing a brick at it from the inside... so thick, hypocritical and filled with irony.

From the man who will never address the actual, true crimes by his team. So smug. So entitled. So delusional.

 

[Confluence]

So the death of 600 servicemen on foreign soil is worse than the death of 3,000 citizens on U.S. soil?

I didn't say that ********.
Your reading skills have not improved over the years.

You said the Iranian terrorist killed zero.

You can't really be that stupid, all the time....

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[Steelworth]

A penny for your thoughts regarding Tammy Duckworth’s response to Doug Collins’ recent comments?

I personally didn't like Collins' comment because not all Democrats are lunatics.

 

[Steelworth]

Tibs, these are the kind of posts that get you in trouble. Almost everyone here sides with our military. Where do you come up with this ****?

And unbridled love?

 

[CharlesDavenport]

I've been on the road much of the day and haven't been paying much attention to anything, clue me in.

Don’t worry about anything. Trump’s got it.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Lol. News headline i just read. We were not justified in killed a pos”. Where do I live. My lord.