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N. Korea again

I'm not thinking the DRPK has any sights on us. I really don't. It doesn't make any ******* sense why they would. They love our ******* movies. If they hit CA with an ICBM, there goes their future film library. We're creating an enemy here. They are not even in the same freakin ballpark of being a tactical threat to our country. The president is creating an enemy with big words and big threats, when they have not done the same.

This Guam **** is a smokescreen. They don't care about Guam, they care about South Korea, and taking it over. That's their plan, that's their end game. Want to get in the middle of that shitstorm again? I lost 2 uncles and nearly my grandfather the last time, so **** that part of the world. Let them **** each other up. If you think big picture, what is the worst thing about N. Korea taking over S.Korea? They start setting their sights on the rest of the pacific rim. That's when China and Japan will start to ******* care. Honestly, let them learn how to regulate their own damn part of the world for once, because that would be fiscally responsible.
 
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Tells you where we are as a nation when a satire show provides much needed clarity on this out-of-control President. With Trump in office, I suggest we all say a little prayer each night for our kids. Scary times indeed.


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Just like Bill Clinton ignored North Korea and was okay with them developing nuclear power ( North Korea said it was energy use only ), Obama did the same to Iran, and actually gave them a boat load of cash to expedite their efforts.

To aid an nation who views us as the enemy and threatens us and our allies is a form of treason.
I agree. That is why I am also against Wisconsin's 3BIL subsidies for Foxconn. I am against subsidies generally, and certainly against helping a Chinese company set up shop here.
 
Japanese save Pearl Harbor!

well, almost


Japan ready to protect Guam, defense minister says


In the event of a North Korean nuclear attack on Guam, Japan’s new defense minister said Thursday that his country’s military could shoot down the missiles before they reach the U.S. territory.

In such a scenario, Japan has the right to activate its Aegis destroyer missile defense system, Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said during a session of the National Diet, Japan’s parliament.

Any attack against Guam would be considered an existential threat to Japan, the defense minister said, also citing a mutual defense agreement with the United States.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/10/japan-ready-to-protect-guam-defense-minister-says.html
 
China is not our friend here


China should stay neutral if North Korea attacks first

BEIJING (Reuters) - If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop them, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of destabilizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-media-idUSKBN1AR005
 
China is not our friend here


China should stay neutral if North Korea attacks first

BEIJING (Reuters) - If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop them, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of destabilizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-media-idUSKBN1AR005

China is in a tough spot with their now nuclear neighbor. They don't want any fallout, so to speak.

It does not get much press in the West, but many of these Asian countries really don't like each other. Japan is at odds with China, and Korea. China does not trust North Korea and vice versa.

The Philippians and Vietnam, fear China and North Korea.
 
wait... hold up ....

China is not our friend here


China should stay neutral if North Korea attacks first

BEIJING (Reuters) - If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop them, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of destabilizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-media-idUSKBN1AR005

where's the weeping snowflakes to DEMAND China do their part for the women and children (dressed as able bodied men) fleeing a war torn country?
 
North Korea says Guam strike plan ready within days

Hagatna, Guam (CNN)A North Korean plan to fire four missiles near the US Pacific territory of Guam will be ready for Kim Jong Un's consideration in days, state media has reported

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/north-korea-considering-near-guam-strike/index.html

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Japan moves missile defence system into central Tokyo

Japan has wheeled missile defence systems into the heart of Tokyo after North Korea threatened to send a volley of rockets over the country towards Guam.

Pictures show how a PAC-3 Patriot missile unit has been moved in to a compound at the Defence Ministry in the capital after officials said they could shoot down North Korean rockets if they pass overhead.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4777808/Japan-moves-missile-defences-central-Tokyo.html
 
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vox is now rallying the millenials and left by stating Trump's tweet (albiet stupid) is wrong. the call of duty heroes at vox likely suspect we need to have every man, woman and transgender in our military armed to the teeth and on the 38th parallel in order to stop anything from the NKs.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/11/16130812/trump-north-korea-tweet-us-military

Trump’s latest North Korea threat is scary. It’s also a lie.

President Donald Trump has now taken the tensions with North Korea to new heights, tweeting on Friday morning that the US military is in position to attack North Korea at a moment’s notice.

“Military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded, should North Korea act unwisely,” the president wrote. “Hopefully Kim Jong Un will find another path!”

This is deeply alarming: Trump is sending a signal to Pyongyang that any US military activity nearby — like long-planned military exercises with South Korea set for August 21 — might well be cover for an attack. That makes the North more willing to consider preemptively striking US and South Korean forces, which would be a catastrophe.

But even worse, Trump’s tweet is actually false: The US military is not “fully in place” and ready to start a war with North Korea.

Doing so would require deploying a huge number of new military assets beyond what the US currently has stationed in South Korea and East Asia. And the Pentagon confirms that no such deployments have happened.

“No,” Lt. Colonel Christopher B. Logan, a Pentagon spokesperson, told me over the phone. “No changes related to that [North Korea].”

So this is a double whammy of a bad tweet: It’s a lie, and it’s a lie that makes a very serious threat that the US military is not quite ready to deliver on.
Why Trump’s tweet is so irresponsible

North Korea’s military, while outclassed by the combined might of the United States and South Korea, is still one of the world’s largest — boasting 1.2 million active service members, 7.7 million reservists, and roughly 21,500 artillery pieces (many of which are pointed right at Seoul, home to 10 million people and South Korea’s capital). Being “fully in place” for a strike on North Korea would mean deploying ground troops to the region that could reinforce the South’s defenses and bringing in aircraft carrier groups that could neutralize the North’s Navy and Air Force.

None of that is happening right now. In fact, two US carriers — USS Carl Vinson and USS Ronald Reagan — just left the waters near North Korea in June.

This is not what you’d expect to see if the US military were, as the president puts it, “fully in place” for a North Korea strike. My colleague Jennifer Williams puts it well:
If we were really about to launch a massive, bloody war with North Korea that could potentially kill tens of thousands of innocent civilians in South Korea and elsewhere — one war game convened by the Atlantic magazine back in 2005 predicted that a North Korean attack on the South would kill 100,000 people in Seoul in the first few days alone, while others put the estimate even higher — one would expect to see a major mobilization happening across the political, military, and diplomatic arms of the US government.

We’re not seeing anything like that. What we do have is a belligerent statement from President Trump that he made while on vacation in New Jersey.

This isn’t the first time Trump has radically misstated America’s military position with respect to North Korea. In April, he asserted that “we are sending an armada, very powerful” to the North’s coast. At the time, the “armada” he was referring to — the Carl Vinson’s carrier group — was actually 3,500 miles away, and heading in the opposite direction from North Korea.

But this time is much more dangerous. Tensions with the North, owing to North Korea’s missile tests and Trump’s unprecedentedly aggressive rhetoric, are at an all-time high. And the more belligerent statements the president makes, the more fraught the situation gets.

Typically, the US deters North Korean aggression by setting clear and predictable policies. Everyone in the US government is on the same page, making it clear to Pyongyang what they can get away with and what will be met with a US response. Public statements are especially important signaling, because the US doesn’t have a direct line of communication with North Korea. The Kim regime figures out what America is saying through US public statements, making consistency in that messaging all the more important.

The more aggressive those messages are, the more likely the North is to react badly.

Trump’s words could “lead Pyongyang to miscalculate or believe it needs to act preemptively if it believes a US attack is imminent,” Laura Rosenberger, the former National Security Council director for Korea and China, told me earlier this week. “Those consequences could be catastrophic.”
 
Screw Vox. Here's the reality:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/11/donald-trump-wins-round-north-korea/

Donald Trump Wins Round One with North Korea

The mainstream media are aghast at President Donald Trump’s comments on North Korea as he promises “fire and fury” and warns that American military solutions are “locked and loaded.”
The political elite, and the foreign policy establishment, oscillate between bitter scorn and sheer panic at his tactics. But one does not have to be convinced of Trump’s rhetorical genius to note that he has already re-framed the conflict in a way that is advantageous to the U.S.

First, Trump has radically changed the costs of a potential conflict, for both sides. The dominant paradigm of nuclear face-offs is mutually assured destruction (MAD), which is why the Soviet Union and the U.S. never attacked each other during the Cold War. Most of the discussion about North Korea has followed the same pattern, because of the threat of ICBMs to the U.S. mainland. After Trump threatened to annihilate North Korea, however, Kim Jong-un threatened to attack … Guam. Trump doubled down, indicating that a North Korean attack on Guam would trigger an attack against the regime. That shifted the costs of a war radically in our favor and against theirs.

Second, it is noteworthy that the North Korean threat to Guam did not refer to nuclear weapons, but rather hinted at conventional missile strikes. There is no way to know for sure that the regime would not use nuclear weapons, if indeed the North Koreans can miniaturize them, but a conventional attack is certainly less serious than a nuclear one. In threatening the most violent possible attack, Trump elicited a response that is significantly less threatening.

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Third, Trump diverted attention away from North Korea’s more vulnerable neighbors, South Korea and Japan. Of course the North Koreans could attack them if the U.S. launched a war. But instead of talking about the potential deaths of millions of people in densely-populated areas, the world is now talking about the qualms felt by a few people on a remote island. That makes Trump’s words look less scary, and eases pressure for the U.S. to back down.

Update: Fourth, the Chinese government is now indicating that it will not defend North Korea from a retaliatory strike if the regime attacks the U.S. (which includes Guam). The Global Times, which reflects the view of the Chinese government, indicated that China would stop the U.S. from trying to overthrow the North Korean regime but would not defend North Korea if it struck the U.S. first. That is a significant change from the status quo ante.

The situation remains unstable, and could escalate. But Trump’s rhetoric is not, as former Obama adviser Susan Rice claims, the problem. In fact, it is part of the solution. It has, at the very least, restored some of our deterrence.


So much better than Obama's policy of "Give them uranium, billions of taxpayer dollars and apologize profusely.
 
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Susan Rice? Why would anybody listen to that idiotic lying sack of **** about anything?
 
China is in a tough spot with their now nuclear neighbor. They don't want any fallout, so to speak.


China has other nuka neighbors too


China Says Countdown For War With India Has Begun

The relationship between India and China seemed to worsen Wednesday when the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that 53 people and an Indian bulldozer was in China's territory and advised India to pull them back. This followed a warning Tuesday when an editorial in the state-run China Daily said that the "countdown to a clash between the two forces has begun."

"India should withdraw its troops and equipment. Regardless of how many Indian troops have trespassed into and stayed in Chinese territory, they have gravely infringed on China's sovereignty," the ministry said

The China Daily editorial said the clock was ticking and that it seemed like a clash would be “an inevitable conclusion” between the two prominent Asian countries if India did pull back its troops from the disputed Doklam region.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/says-china-countdown-war-india-113220364.html

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"Saber" rattling...


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Some tremendous thoughts from a political friend of mine:

"RANT::: I was watching an interview with an escaped North Korean citizen last night. From the earliest of ages, The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea cultivates a rabid anti-American sentiment. For example, in schools, math is taught by the addition and subtraction of dead American GI's. It is taught that America and the American system of politics (freedom) and economics (capitalism) is solely responsible for the woes and sufferings of the North Korean people and so long as the US remains, it is a threat to their survival.

This communist claim sounds vaguely similar to the claims of the ardent left here. The sole claim of the left, worldwide, in every way shape and form, has always been that if America, especially American capitalism can be eradicated from the face of the earth, then leftism - a "workers paradise" - can be ushered in for all.

This was the essence of the argument used for Obamacare, right? Forced participation. Everyone in the pool. Evil Insurance companies. Just a riff off the larger leftist concept.

That's precisely why the left has to build walls and force participation, eliminate choice and options - whether it's healthcare, or climate change - it can not permit the individual the freedom to choose. It's also precisely why capitalism, in their view, must be eradicated. Because, capitalisms basic expression is the freedom to choose. But, in so far, if a human soul has the ability to escape the clutches of communism and choose freedom . - either in a neighboring state, a new city, or a new country - they will. As long as that choice exists, it acts as an inhibitor to leftisms advance. Thats why people come here. Thats why people leave places like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, California, Maine, etc.

So how is the anti Americanism of North Korea any different than the rabid anti Americanism of Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders? Or even Barrack Obama, in his book "Dreams of my Father", how he compared American interests as "imperialistic."

Sure, the American left doesn't use the same belligerent terminology, but they are increasingly getting more radical. Think of the lurch left from Bill Clinton to Bernie Sanders. They attack capitalism, they divide along race, gender, creed. But as I've said repeatedly, each time leftism fails, it doesn't correct or moderate. It lurches further left. Just as it did after the last election. The left here is losing in every state across the nation, but that doesn't stop them. They will never stop."


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"Saber" rattling...


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Stupid Germans. They should have made Kim yellow.
 
Don't worry Tibs, I feel as safe here in the U.S. as you do in Hungary.....
 
Don't worry Tibs, I feel as safe here in the U.S. as you do in Hungary.....
Now that's something I'm glad about, good to hear.
 

Another ridiculous, uneducated meme. Nuclear development in N. Korea, as a problem, began under Clinton. Under Obama, the speed with which Kim developed his nuclear capability accelerated. Obama's Administration knew about their mini-nukes, but did nothing about it. Once again, like 9/11, a Republican inherits a ******* foreign policy nightmare created by Liberals.

Now, if you go down the path of arguing Trump is stirring up this hornets nest, stand corrected again. As I posted above, kids are taught from day 1 to hate America and Americans. Destruction of America is their goal and has been their goal since the beginning. What happens when finally put a weapon in the hands of the beast aimed at destroying America, an America they couldn't previously reach? They threaten attack.

And that's why we're here. The difference is we have a President who will take the fight to the aggressor and will clean up this awful mess left b the disastrous foreign policy run by Obama and Hillary.
 
Another ridiculous, uneducated meme.* Nuclear development in N. Korea, as a problem, began under Clinton.* Under Obama, the speed with which Kim developed his nuclear capability accelerated.* Obama's Administration knew about their mini-nukes, but did nothing about it.* Once again, like 9/11, a Republican inherits a ******* foreign policy nightmare created by Liberals.

Now, if you go down the path of arguing Trump is stirring up this hornets nest, stand corrected again.* As I posted above, kids are taught from day 1 to hate America and Americans.* Destruction of America is their goal and has been their goal since the beginning.* What happens when finally put a weapon in the hands of the beast aimed at destroying America, an America they couldn't previously reach?* They threaten attack.

And that's why we're here.* The difference is we have a President who will take the fight to the aggressor and will clean up this awful mess left b the disastrous foreign policy run by Obama and Hillary.

No, stirring up a hornets nest is never a good idea.

You would think Trumptards would know by now that their POTUS is nothing but hot air.

One of two things is going to happen:

1. The North Koreans get a backchannel threat from the Chinese and Kim backs off.

2. Kim launches his missiles and we do nothing.

That's it. Other than Japan or us maybe launching Patriots(and that's a big maybe) nothing as far as war is going to come of this. Trump will prove himself to be a loud mouth jagoff just like that little prick running N.K.

If you expect any other result as a Trumptard ,you are obviously not tired of "WINNING!" yet..................
 
No, stirring up a hornets nest is never a good idea.

You would think Trumptards would know by now that their POTUS is nothing but hot air.

One of two things is going to happen:

1. The North Koreans get a backchannel threat from the Chinese and Kim backs off.

2. Kim launches his missiles and we do nothing.

That's it. Other than Japan or us maybe launching Patriots(and that's a big maybe) nothing as far as war is going to come of this. Trump will prove himself to be a loud mouth jagoff just like that little prick running N.K.

If you expect any other result as a Trumptard ,you are obviously not tired of "WINNING!" yet..................

Now wait just a minute here. I thought Trump was some mad dog, out of control, maniac just itching to press the red button on somebody. Isn't that what you guys were saying in your tantrums all through and after the election process? Now you are saying there is no danger because he's all talk? Boy, I'm really confused now.
 
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