What the hell are you doing Tibs those photos have not been approved by the Official "Tomlin is confused" committee. Please don't post any other pics of Tomlin not confused or befuddled. Thank you management.
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What the hell are you doing Tibs those photos have not been approved by the Official "Tomlin is confused" committee. Please don't post any other pics of Tomlin not confused or befuddled. Thank you management.
Who's says he doesn't cheerlead? The fact remains that when all the cheerleading fails, Tomlin often looks like a deer in headlights.
Those pics don't look like "cheerleading". They look like a genuinely pissed off coach. Cowher's schtick (jaw out and spitting) got old after consecutive years w/out a playoff birth too. Cowher's "Marty Ball" mentality also came under fire (wouldn't that be game management/approach?). Cowher was, for most of his time here, a damned good coach. Tomlin has been growing in that direction.
Funny in Cowher face you saw anger and and intensity. On Tomlin you saw cheer leading. Interesting
Cowher was ready to retire and his last year he lost his desire. And obviously hasn't regained it for coaching. He on numerous occasions has expressed his desired to stay retired from coaching. Simply too time consuming for him. So for the few who wish him back. It is a dream that will never be fulfilled. Best you get past it and accept Tomlin as the coach for the present.
With the extension it is what it is. Now we can just can hope for player improvement, and see what happens.........
With the extension it is what it is. Now we can just can hope for player improvement, and see what happens.........
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How someone can say a person lost their desire is beyond me. I think Tomlin lost his desire when he went 8-8 back to back years. When your QB is almost killed in an bike accident, has an appendectomy, and then a concussion you're going to have a tough year. But some how Cowher lost his desire?
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I would have rather seen NO extension for either Tomlin or Colbert. Let them draft, GM and coach for 2015 and 2016, then decided if an extension makes sense.
For better or worse, they are here until 2018.
When the 2018 season ends, I expect at least two playoff wins. The Steelers have not had a playoff win in four years. IMO, this is too long and does not justify an extension.
For better or worse, they are here until 2018.
When the 2018 season ends, I expect at least two playoff wins. The Steelers have not had a playoff win in four years. IMO, this is too long and does not justify an extension.
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After winning the SB finally and with his wife pressing for him to move back to N. Carolina .....one could say he lost some of the fire. Hell he retired didn't he?
Of course Tomlin also might have lost some of his desire also after 8 and 8 seasoms.
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So losing our starting center for a SB, and losing the RB having the best year in the league last year before the playoff game don't matter either? I keep hearing Tomlin isn't a GREAT coach. Was Cowher a great coach? You can't use smoke screens and excuses for one and not the other. I think they are both good, not great coaches. I do love the regurgitated arguments though. In two years when they extend him again we can do it again.
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I don't know if he is a great coach but Cowher was great with Ben, 5-1 in the playoffs in only 3 years coaching him while Tomlin is a mediocre 5-4 in the playoffs with Ben in EIGHT years and in his prime, huge advantage Cowher.
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That's something that Cowher has as many playoff victories with Ben as Tomlin. That's crazy when you think of it.
It is probably how he looked on the sideline. I guess that tells a lot about a guy, at least according to this thread.
The team was in it's prime with that group of players from '04-'10. After '10, I think age started to catch them.
What I cannot explain is '06 and '09. Both those years are hard to explain. I know the Ben thing in '06 and it is very legitimate. But Cowher screwed up there. Charlie Batch was a competent QB. They could have won some games with him and let Ben get right. Maybe a couple of more wins they are back in with a healthy Ben and who knows? '09 there is less of an excuse.
I think Tomlin deserves some slack for the last few years. He is trying to build something back here. That takes some time.
Especially when you waste high draft picks on the likes of Jarvis Jones, Dri Archer, and Limas Sweed.
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Jury is definitely still out on both Jones & Archer. But yeah, the Sweed pick was pretty lame...if you want to look back that far.
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A QB is much more important than a RB or a ******* center. How many were on the DL for GB when they won that game. They had a bunch of nobodies in the secondary. I guess that doesn't count thought right? Only the Steelers can have health issues.
And I was only looking at picks in the first three rounds. Getting AB in the 6th I suppose makes up for it. 4th to 6th rounds are a crapshoot and I get that. If one of those turns out well then it's a bonus. Every pick in rounds 1 to 3 ought to be a bona fide ******* starter by year three, barring injury.
Cowher retired. That usually is an indication that either 1) Someone has gotten too old to perform the job adequately 2) They have lost their desire to perform the job and wish to pursue other interests or 3) ARII has decided they are retired.
Cowher wasn't old and ARII didn't help him out the door. So, I think it's fair to say that he lost his desire and wished to pursue other interests. Something he himself alluded to when talking about his desire to watch his daughters play college sports.
his retirement and never returning simply showed he had other priorities.
He desired other things in his life more.
we are talking about a man that easily still could be coaching if that was his want
or could have left and came back
after remarrying he still took the same stance
obviously he desires to work less and does
which is why I think he simply lost his desire to coach
Jamain Stephens anyone...Scott Shields
Tomlin drafts are talked about but this isn't any better
Round Overall Player Position College
1 24 Chad Scott DB Maryland
2 53 Will Blackwell WR San Diego State
3 82 Paul Wiggins OT Oregon
3 91 Mike Vrabel LB Ohio State
5 154 George Jones RB San Diego State
6 186 Daryl Porter DB Boston College
6 199 Rod Manuel DE Oklahoma
7 223 Michael Adams WR Texas
Round Overall Player Position College
1 29 Jamain Stephens OT North Carolina A&T
3 72 Steve Conley LB Arkansas
3 92 Jon Witman RB Penn State
4 126 Earl Holmes LB Florida A&M
4 132 Jahine Arnold WR Fresno State
5 163 Israel Raybon DE North Alabama
6 200 Orpheus Roye DT Florida State
6 203 Spence Fischer QB Duke
7 242 Carlos Emmons LB Arkansas State
A little better with Holmes and maybe Witman and Roye but this combined with the the 97 draft led to the 98 99 debacles that we didn't start to recover until 2000
Round Overall Player Position College
1 24 Chad Scott DB Maryland
2 53 Will Blackwell WR San Diego State
3 82 Paul Wiggins OT Oregon
3 91 Mike Vrabel LB Ohio State
5 154 George Jones RB San Diego State
6 186 Daryl Porter DB Boston College
6 199 Rod Manuel DE Oklahoma
7 223 Michael Adams WR Texas
Round Overall Player Position College
1 29 Jamain Stephens OT North Carolina A&T
3 72 Steve Conley LB Arkansas
3 92 Jon Witman RB Penn State
4 126 Earl Holmes LB Florida A&M
4 132 Jahine Arnold WR Fresno State
5 163 Israel Raybon DE North Alabama
6 200 Orpheus Roye DT Florida State
6 203 Spence Fischer QB Duke
7 242 Carlos Emmons LB Arkansas State
A little better with Holmes and maybe Witman and Roye but this combined with the the 97 draft led to the 98 99 debacles that we didn't start to recover until 2000
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This past season of 11-5 probably secured their two-year extensions. It's hard to not go this way after winning your division with 11 wins. Another two years of 8-8 and the FO may re-evaluate HCMT and GMKC. They are secure again around here. The D does have a lot of work to do to get better and that goes with the drafts, as well. Shazier, Dupree and Jarvis better pan out sooner than later. Those three high picks/question marks highlight the future of the D. Time will tell, but there is a lot invested in those three picks that will make or break the D.
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None of that means he mailed in his last season. You think Noll mailed in his last season? It's just an opinion not fact. Just because he retired doesn't mean he lost anything. Hell, that team won 6 out of it's last 8 games. I guess a coach can just mail it in and win once his QB gets healthy? Strange how that happened...
