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The " F " the media thread

And what about all the stupid fact checking of the SOTU? Trump says almost 1/3, media calls it a lie because it’s really 31% (almost 1/3). And he says we have been at war in the Middle East for almost 19 years, media says almost 18 years, obviously forgetting desert storm. Just nit picking. You know, if they were this thorough with everyone there wouldn’t be a klan member and a sex offender running Virginia.
 
‘Impartial’ fact-checkers are revealing their partisanship against Trump

If media wants to challenge the context and politics of Republican arguments, that’s their prerogative. There are plenty of legitimately misleading statements worthy of fact-checkers’ attention. Yet, with a veneer of impartiality, fact-checkers often engage in a uniquely dishonest style of partisanship. And State of Union coverage gave us an abundance of examples of how they do it:

Hyper-precision fact-checking that creates the impression that a Republican is misleading the public: For this, take Politico’s insinuation that Donald Trump was lying to the public about abuse of women at the border. During the State of the Union, Trump claimed: “one in three women is sexually assaulted on the long journey north.” This contention is only “partly true,” according to Politico, because a “2017 report by Doctors Without Borders” found that only 31 percent of female migrants and 17 percent of male migrants said they had been actually abused while traveling through Mexico.

Whether Doctors Without Borders’ scary statistic is accurate or not, is one thing. Trump, however, was being called out for asserting that “one in every three” illegal immigrants has been abused attempting to cross the border rather than “33.333 percent of women” — probably a rounding error in the poll. It is almost surely the case that every past president and every politician has used “one-third” or “one-half” rather than a specific fraction, and walked away without being fact-checked.

Fact-checking subjective political assertions: The New York Times provided a masterclass in bad faith fact-checking by taking political contentions offered by the president and subjecting them to a supposed impartial test of accuracy. In his speech, Trump called the illegal border crossing “an urgent national crisis.” The New York Times says “this is false.” Why? Because illegal border crossings have been declining for two decades, they say. Customs and Border Protection agents, they go on to explain, had arrested around 50,000 people trying to illegally cross the southwestern border each of the last three months, which was only half of the arrests they had made in comparable months in the mid-2000s.

Even if those numbers are correct, there is no way to fact-check urgency. After all, a lessening crisis doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t a pressing one. We’ve seen a steep decline in gun violence over the past 30 years. Would The New York Times ever “fact-check” a Democrat who argued that gun violence was an “urgent crisis” of public safety? Of course not. But this fluctuating standard allows journalists to “fact-check” any subjective political contention they desire.

If I claim that socialism is the greatest threat to American freedom and prosperity, I may well be right. I may have a lot of historical and economic evidence to back up my assertion. You can argue that I’m wrong. You can lay out statistics that attempt to prove me wrong. You can call me crazy. But you can’t produce an unbiased “fact-check” establishing that my opinion is conclusively false. You’re just writing an op-ed piece.

Partisan talking point masquerading as a fact check: “FACT CHECK: President Trump praised the record number of women in Congress, but that’s almost entirely because of Democrats, not Trump’s party,” NPR tweeted, correcting the record on a statement that the president never made.

Here’s what Trump said: “And exactly one century after Congress passed the Constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote, we also have more women serving in Congress than at any time before. That’s great. Very great. And congratulations. That’s great.”

Trump was offering his rundown on the state of the union, not the Republican Party. It’s true that presidents take credit for all the good things that happen under their watch. Trump is no exception. In this rare case, however, Trump didn’t even take credit for electing the female politicians. In fact, he congratulated them after they broke out into cheers over his comment. Some people have argued that NPR’s piece was providing context to the president’s comment. Perhaps. Still, their nitpicking created the impression that somehow Trump had misled the public. He did not.

Fact-checking meant to obscure actual facts: The Washington Post’s fact-checking page offered a number of egregious examples of outright misinformation. In one of them, reporter Meg Kelly claimed that, “Abortion legislation in New York wouldn’t do what Trump said.” There are a number of words in her post intimating that Trump lied about the New York and Virginia late-term abortion bills, but none of her words debunk Trump’s core contention. Ramesh Ponnuru has a good rundown here.

Here’s what Trump said: “Lawmakers in New York cheered with delight upon the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth. These are living, feeling, beautiful, babies who will never get the chance to share their love and dreams with the world. And then, we had the case of the governor of Virginia where he stated he would execute a baby after birth.”

As I’ve noted before, the biggest clue that you’re about to read a deceptive fact check on the abortion issue is an author mentioning that “only” few abortions of viable babies take place. “Indeed,” Kelly writes, “only 1.3 percent of abortions — or about 8,500 a year — take place at or after 21 weeks, according to 2014 data from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention and the Guttmacher Institute.” This number, as Ponnuru points out, is almost surely low. Whatever the case, Trump never claimed “most” abortions were post-20 weeks. Whether 8,500 or 15,000, thousands of viable babies are being aborted. No fact-checker would ever point out that only .0001 percent of legal gun owners commit crimes when talking about more firearm restrictions (and, yes, that’s an approximation).

And yes, the president used a bit of rhetorical flourish to say that babies can be “ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth” because, actually, they can be poisoned or dismembered in the mother’s womb moments before birth. Both the Virginia bill, which was tabled, and the New York law allow, just as Trump says (in his blunt language), for the termination of infants who survive the abortion procedure. Absolutely nothing in The Post’s “fact check” debunks the president’s contention that in New York, and elsewhere, abortion on demand until crowning (and after) is now legal as long as the woman and a doctor decide that the baby is stressful in some way to the mother. How often it happens is up for debate. What the bill says is inarguable.

Fact-checking a truthful statement by demanding that Trump highlight information that has absolutely nothing to do with his contention: An astute reader points out this PBS fact-check of a Trump tweet from a couple of weeks ago. I’ve noticed this genre, as well. In it, the president points out that a reputable Marist/NPR/PBS Poll had shown that his approval rating among Latinos had risen to 50 percent, an increase of 19 percent over a year’s time. After confirming that, yes, Trump had been precise in his assertion regarding their poll, PBS spends around 700 words taking Trump to task for failing to highlight other negative information in the poll. Will this be a new standard for all politicians?

The state of American fact-checking is dreadfully misleading. There’s no reason for conservatives to give its authors the deference they seek.
 
When Democrats label something, it's a good bet that the label describes the opposite of the thing being labeled. One would expect their "fact checks" to be a joke.
 
I can't wait to see how they "fact check" this Green New Deal mess.
 
Here's the list of everyone that is getting sued for defamation by the MAGA kid. They just announced that they'll be suing the Indian and his 4 teeth too.

The Cincinnati Inquirer released the full list of people and organizations listed in the lawsuit:

The Washington Post
The New York Times
Cable News Network, Inc. (CNN)
The Guardian
National Public Radio
TMZ
Atlantic Media Inc.
Capitol Hill Publishing Corp.
Diocese of Covington
Diocese of Lexington
Archdiocese of Louisville
Diocese of Baltimore
Ana Cabrera
Sara Sidner
Erin Burnett
S.E. Cupp
Elliot C. McLaughlin
Amanda Watts
Emanuella Grinberg
Michelle Boorstein
Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
Antonio Olivo
Joe Heim
Michael E. Miller
Eli Rosenberg
Isaac Stanley-Becker
Kristine Phillips
Sarah Mervosh
Emily S. Rueb
Maggie Haberman
David Brooks
Shannon Doyne
Kurt Eichenwald
Andrea Mitchell
Savannah Guthrie
Joy Reid
Chuck Todd
Noah Berlatsky
Elisha Fieldstadt
Eun Kyung Kim
HBO
Bill Maher
Warner Media
Condé Nast
GQ
Heavy.com
The Hill
The Atlantic
Bustle
Ilhan Omar
Elizabeth Warren
Kathy Griffin
Alyssa Milano
Jim Carrey
Chief Grisly Chiclets
 
Here's the list of everyone that is getting sued for defamation by the MAGA kid. They just announced that they'll be suing the Indian and his 4 teeth too.

Nationwide dental care!! For free! Because Indian guy with bad teeth, that's why.
 
Looks like Jussie and two guys staged the "crime".
Thanks to Robin Roberts for getting to the bottom of things with her hard hitting interview on GMA.
 
They have to advance the cause above all else, even if truth is the real casualty.
 
Looks like Jussie and two guys staged the "crime".
Thanks to Robin Roberts for getting to the bottom of things with her hard hitting interview on GMA.

Yes, another Liberal staging a fake attack in attempts to make the Right look bad is brought down in flames.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ion-claims-Jussie-Smollett-staged-attack.html

I'm just disappointed Tibs isn't here. 2 pages ago he surely would have labeled Smollett an American Hero and Patriot.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/jussie-smollett-attack-staged-1203140464/

Chicago police have concluded that the alleged attack on “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett was staged, according to two local media reports.

The Chicago Police Department pushed back on the reporting, saying the notion that the attack was a hoax was “unconfirmed by case detectives.”

Police spent much of Thursday interviewing two persons of interest in the case, who are believed to have been seen on surveillance images on the night of the attack.

Rob Elgas, a reporter at ABC 7 in Chicago, reported Thursday afternoon that “multiple sources” said Smollett and the two men staged the attack because his character was being written off the show. Brad Edwards, a reporter at CBS Chicago, cited a source who said investigators believe the “non-cooperating 2 witnesses are co-conspirators in a potentially staged attack.” In a statement, Fox denied that Smollett was being written off the show.
 
I heard this morning that the police have NOT called this a hoax, but are wondering why the two alleged perpetrators are Nigerian.....
 
I heard this morning that the police got his phone records on their own, right away. They just asked him to provide them to see how he reacted. He's a liar.
 
I heard this morning that the police got his phone records on their own, right away. They just asked him to provide them to see how he reacted. He's a liar.

I did hear that he said he would NOT give up his phone because of personal photos and texts and that it wasn't right of the police to ask him for them.
 
I did hear that he said he would NOT give up his phone because of personal photos and texts and that it wasn't right of the police to ask him for them.

Yeah, all signs of lying. All he had to do was show them his recent calls screen to prove the time that he said he was on the phone.
 
I heard this morning that the police have NOT called this a hoax, but are wondering why the two alleged perpetrators are Nigerian.....

Have not followed the story at all, but did come across one hilarious observation. Apparently, the guy claims he was assaulted by two men, but did not stop his phone call and where he did not drop or even damage his Subway sandwich. So one guy noted that the sandwich protected the guy because it was a "hero." :usa2::chuncky:
 
Little Jim Acosta got his *** handed to him again by Trump.

“What do you say to critics who say that you are creating a national emergency? That you’re concocting a national emergency here to get your wall,” Acosta said.

Trump pointed to angel moms in attendance, asking them for their thoughts.

“You think I’m creating something? Ask these incredible women who lost their daughters and their sons,” Trump said. “OK, Because your question is a very political question because you have an agenda. You’re CNN. You’re fake news.”
 
I heard this morning that the police have NOT called this a hoax, but are wondering why the two alleged perpetrators are Nigerian.....

The police are not PUBLICLY calling this a hoax. I listen to a Chicago station in the AM and they are saying that no police believe his story, and never did.
 
The police are not PUBLICLY calling this a hoax. I listen to a Chicago station in the AM and they are saying that no police believe his story, and never did.

Why wouldn't they? Are they trying to protect the narrative?
 
They way the libtard left treats the police they should be shouting this from the rooftops. They’ll eventually prosecute him for filing a false report.

Nothing false here, Indy. These are the two white guys who attacked Smollet:

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As CWBChicago reported: “Investigators already received Smollett’s complete phone records via a subpoena served on his service provider, according to a source close quoted by CWBChicago on Feb. 4.”

“A source familiar with the records provided by the Empire star states that Smollett downloaded his phone activity into a spreadsheet and then deleted certain phone calls before handing over the records. ‘He did the [detectives’] job for them because then they only had to focus on the numbers he deleted.'"

The idiot probably deleted calls to these two guys who helped him stage it. That would explain why the police raided their house.

https://www.infowars.com/report-jus...k-with-help-of-extra-from-empire-home-raided/
 
I predict that the race baiting little ********** is looking at a career of gay porn after this......and should do some time for the fraudulent claims. I used to really like Robin Roberts, but she has proven herself to just be another media *****.

Keepin it real.
 
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