Maybe they should punt on first down then.
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One might say one n of the most important
And all 3 were total but kickings, like we never had a chance and Shades doesn't even get that. He simply applies the only way he knows how to win and when we don't get the turnovers, in multiplies against decent teams, we have no chance of winning. And he's just lost from that point on. That's not a good coach. He's a simple jack @$$.
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Tepper’s team has doubled in value in a handful of years….id say he’s doing plenty well
Paid 2.2
Current valuation 4.5
Not bad for buying in 2018
He’ll pass Pittsburgh in a few years which is really sad as they sit at only 5.3
He may get a playoff win before we do again too which would be really sad
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18 straight Tomlinships!
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That's a keeper whether you coined or not lol.
I've been on my self-imposed mini-bye week after watching 3 games in 11 days---I was tuckered out...
So glad to see nothing has changed much.
Hi Bob...
It's just that there is more to football than just that. He doesn't seem to realize that.
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But... you have to admit that the turnover battle is one of the most if not the most important part right?
There is, but look at the last two games and the impact turnovers had on them. I am not saying they would have won either game, but against the Ravens they were heading in to possibly go up 14-7 and seemed like they had got some things working. Wilson fumbles and the game turned. The Wilson int against the Chiefs was big. I don't remember the scenario with Christmas and all...other stuff going on, but at that point weren't they only down 13-7? Turnovers for a team like the Steelers, who have to be damn near perfect to beat the Chiefs, are backbreakers.
I listen to Williamson a lot, and he breaks down film in detail. After the Chiefs game he was pretty critical of Wilson. Not seeing things, not getting the ball out, etc. We all want the Steelers to be more aggressive, but do they players they have allow that?
Our head coach doesn't allow us to have a team that can overcome turnovers. Sure they ARE critical, but if that's all your team has got, have fun losing every year in January. Tomlin is simply too simple to know anymore than that, period, end of story.
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That's a fair point. The caveat to that is the players he has may be limiting his ability to be that kind of team. Again, is Wilson seeing the field and getting the ball out on time? If not, would you take too many risks?
Could very well be that he is not. He hasn't seemed to. But Shades has always been scared of his own shadow, Ben had to take matters into his own hands to get anything done.
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When the offensive line doesn’t develop but seems to get worse despite investments-do they have an OL coach capable of teaching blocking technique?
When the offense is so predictable that everyone watching knows what play is going to happen before the snap-do they have an offensive scheme devised by the HC to do that?
When the play call by down and distance is so predictable a casual fan can guess run/pass correctly 90% or more-do they have a play caller to do that?
When the defensive scheme has been passive and predictable-do they have a HC capable of that?(don’t kid yourself and think those 12 plays on the sheet are Austin’s scheme)
The players are certainly there to run a more aggressive scheme, but it’s hard to at run full speed when the Mike-romanager places a hurdle every 5 feet out on the racetrack.
We won’t even get into the inept, underpaid position coaches/ yes men
Currently Bubbles
is the best coach on the staff- that’s a glaring issueAS and Austin we’ll never really know what they can actually do as they are shackled by the human hurdle…mediocre Mike
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Personally, I think Tomlin's singular obession with the turnover mantra and Alex Smithing actually retarded the development of KP and probably did Fields no favors either in his reach exceeding his grasp so to speak. Tomlin's "Don't Kill Us" is not conducive for QBs "letting it rip" and learning from mistakes where much learning takes place. Thrown in the pestilent avoiding the middle of the field when it has never been easier to throw in the MOF and you've got malpractice with offensive football 25 years into the 21st Century.
The dinosaur has got to go. That's the overriding issue.
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You guys are something. Everything is about Tomlin. In no way was my post a defense of Tomlin, I was simply questioning if they have the players to play a higher risk brand of football on offense. I'm not sure they do. The Qb has limits, the OL is young and probably just hanging on with the 2 rooks playing more football then they ever have, no legit #2 with a headcase #1, lack of explosion at Rb.
I wish they'd be more aggressive as well. But the players gotta be able to do it. If not they'll be out of games right quick.
I wish they'd be more aggressive as well. But the players gotta be able to do it. If not they'll be out of games right quick.
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Just out of curiosity and trust me, I’m not wishing or saying this is what will happen but what if we lose out? That’s five straight loses to end the season so what happens now?
The other scenario we beat the Bengals but lose to the Texans in the first round?
We know Shades is untouchable so who is the scapegoat?
Could bit be Terrell Austin? Could it be Artie Smith?
Who gets the QB contract? Russ or the much younger Justin?
Trades perhaps at the start of the NFL business year? Who could be on the block? Minkah? TJ Watt bite your tongue? Highsmith? Pickens?
Who gets a new contract besides the QB? Mr.Pickens? Jaylen Warren? Najee? Dan Moore?
My point there has to be changes from Steelerland if the season ends in losing out or dropping the playoff game in the opening round.
The other scenario we beat the Bengals but lose to the Texans in the first round?
We know Shades is untouchable so who is the scapegoat?
Could bit be Terrell Austin? Could it be Artie Smith?
Who gets the QB contract? Russ or the much younger Justin?
Trades perhaps at the start of the NFL business year? Who could be on the block? Minkah? TJ Watt bite your tongue? Highsmith? Pickens?
Who gets a new contract besides the QB? Mr.Pickens? Jaylen Warren? Najee? Dan Moore?
My point there has to be changes from Steelerland if the season ends in losing out or dropping the playoff game in the opening round.
We're not asking for rocket science. we're simply asking for some 21st century football, nothing complicated. Just throwing SOME to the middle of the field is not asking for too much, only to "pee his pants" Tomlin is it asking for too much. Speaking of a poster really "being something?" You act as if throwing a few to the middle of the field is something so radical. Only to Cool Shades.
They have no #2? Mike Williams needs some balls his way to find out. Tomlin is just a scared little kid.
Remember MT's "nameless gray faces" remark, describing the players on the opposing team?
Ironically, that phrase has now come full circle. You can use it to describe the Steelers' players who surround Mike Tomlin. You can insert a future Hall-of-Fame quarterback like Ben in his prime. You can have a perennial Defensive POY candidate like Watt in there for years. You can have dynamic playmakers at wide receiver like AB and George Pickens. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what happens next this time around. The Steelers are stuck in above average purgatory, limited by the outdated and unimaginative approach of their head coach.
Unfortunately, the Steelers themselves have become the nameless gray faces in this merry-go-round.
I recall the game against the Chiefs, Wilson did throw one right down the seam...right into the hands of a Chief.
When you guys sit down to eat, or have a beer or whatever you do for fun, can you get Tomlin outta your minds? You are so ready to be offended by whatever you perceive is the slightest defense of Tomlin. I assure you he ain't thinking this hard about you.
Again, in theory I agree with you about opening up the offense. Then I listen to a guy like Williamson...who takes deep dives into these games. He says Williams isn't getting open consistently. When he does Wilson isn't seeing the field or getting it out on time. Najee has issues. Those are the realities unfortunately. He has stated the Steelers are trying to do some of these things and the players are not consistently enough getting it done.
I know enough to know that we don't see that much on TV. Yet we make all these assumptions.
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He would not let Ben audible.
Tomlin's issues and limitations create same with the team, and these issues have been the same since 2015ish.
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To be more aggressive they simply need to incorporate first down throws, play action, simple
Catch and go RAC routes like slants to expose
The middle of the field, attack the seams with TEs…we do have players that can execute these very basic concepts…our very basic coach simply wrote them out of his ultra conservative scheme. So yeah lotsa fingers to point at Mediocre Mike because make no mistake the man resides in a house of fears and is a walking blabbering contradiction. So yeah players act crazy, don’t buy in cuz the identity is a charade and the game plan is obsolete.
That is mostly because of a coach.
One simple way to find out…hint hint, looking at you Rooneys!!!! Time to explore that awesome trade value for the ultra highly coveted brilliant Captain Platitudes.
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