Tomlin Sucks

[diver]

He would not let Ben audible.
Tomlin's issues and limitations create same with the team, and these issues have been the same since 2015ish.

When? He sure as hell let him audible from 2007 through 2019 when he got hurt. It's a cheap argument. I don't know why the hell he didn't let him after that, if he truly didn't. It was a stupid decision on his part, no argument there.

That being said, I think this audible thing is overrated. My buddies and I used to joke about it when we'd watch Steeler games. You'd get all excited, you'd see Ben pointing an shiit, announcers saying "he's audibiling!", blue 52 and all that, the play would go off and it wouldn't be much. It started to become funny. I can't remember any, but can you recall one big play Ben had that sticks out that you were sure he was audibiling? I really can't. Audibiling and improvising are two different things.

 

[diver]

To be more aggressive they simply need to incorporate first down throws, play action, simple
Catch and go RAC routes like slants to expose
The middle of the field, attack the seams with TEs…we do have players that can execute these very basic concepts…our very basic coach simply wrote them out of his ultra conservative scheme. So yeah lotsa fingers to point at Mediocre Mike because make no mistake the man resides in a house of fears and is a walking blabbering contradiction. So yeah players act crazy, don’t buy in cuz the identity is a charade and the game plan is obsolete.

That is mostly because of a coach.

One simple way to find out…hint hint, looking at you Rooneys!!!! Time to explore that awesome trade value for the ultra highly coveted brilliant Captain Platitudes.

Absolutely. I agree with that again in theory. But they did try a seam route to the TE against the Chiefs. The knucklehead WR didn't run out his route, the safety left and picked the ball off. If the players won't, or can't or whatever do it, what are you left with? Where I disagree with some of you is that I don't think the talent, or heads, or a combination of both is the to do these things. Now, that is the responsibility of the coach and FO, so we are on the same page there.

 

[Lloyd]

I recall the game against the Chiefs, Wilson did throw one right down the seam...right into the hands of a Chief.

When you guys sit down to eat, or have a beer or whatever you do for fun, can you get Tomlin outta your minds? You are so ready to be offended by whatever you perceive is the slightest defense of Tomlin. I assure you he ain't thinking this hard about you.

Again, in theory I agree with you about opening up the offense. Then I listen to a guy like Williamson...who takes deep dives into these games. He says Williams isn't getting open consistently. When he does Wilson isn't seeing the field or getting it out on time. Najee has issues. Those are the realities unfortunately. He has stated the Steelers are trying to do some of these things and the players are not consistently enough getting it done.

I know enough to know that we don't see that much on TV. Yet we make all these assumptions.

It's 19-7, Bengals, 2nd half. Say whatever excuses you want, Steelers aren't getting it done, regardless of whatever you have to say. The Bengals 27th ranked D has held us to 7 points. That's just great.

 

[diver]

It's 19-7, Bengals, 2nd half. Say whatever excuses you want, Steelers aren't getting it done, regardless of whatever you have to say. The Bengals 27th ranked D has held us to 7 points. That's just great.

I'm not making excuses. They aren't good enough. The coaching is lousy. I agree. They also don't have the players.

 

[Lloyd]

I'm not making excuses. They aren't good enough. The coaching is lousy. I agree. They also don't have the players.

They have the players to be better than a 4-game losing streak heading into the playoffs.

 

[Tomlinoutcoached]

Another bad loss. Tomlin has to go. Smith has to go. Wilson has to go.

 

[diver]

They have the players to be better than a 4-game losing streak heading into the playoffs.

No they don't. What proof do you have that they do? Just look at what you saw out there tonight.

 

[str8liner]

No they don't. What proof do you have that they do? Just look at what you saw out there tonight.

10 win frauds just like the 11 wins the other year.

 

[MT~Forged]

I am withholding judgement on Smith because TOMLIN determines the game plan, as proven by nothing really changing with the last 4 OC’s.

 

[slashsteel]

I'm not making excuses. They aren't good enough. The coaching is lousy. I agree. They also don't have the players.

They would never have good enough players to make up for their coaching deficiencies. As they aren’t good enough in the X and O department. Been preaching that for a decade. You can’t have your HC deficient in that area now.

Especially on offense. This is a O minded league what they showed on that field isn’t it.

Inept coaching at best.

More often a laughing stock than not.

 

[diver]

They would never have good enough players to make up for their coaching deficiencies. As they aren’t good enough in the X and O department. Been preaching that for a decade. You can’t have your HC deficient in that area now.

Especially on offense. This is a O minded league what they showed on that field isn’t it.

Inept coaching at best.

More often a laughing stock than not.

Probably, but Russell Wilson has regressed terribly. They would be better off starting Justin Fields for the playoff game. At least he could make a play or two with his feet.

 

[slashsteel]

Probably, but Russell Wilson has regressed terribly. They would be better off starting Justin Fields for the playoff game. At least he could make a play or two with his feet.

They struggled with Fields too. I don’t think either QB is the answer. I do know that HC isn’t the answer. Every year he proves this true.

 

[diver]

They struggled with Fields too. I don’t think either QB is the answer. I do know that HC isn’t the answer. Every year he proves this true.

Not saying Fields is. When I said they'd be better off, it's all relative.

I said in another thread, it's gonna have to get this bad and probably a lot worse for them to move on from Tomlin. Do we have the stomach for it?

 

[slashsteel]

Not saying Fields is. When I said they'd be better off, it's all relative.

I said in another thread, it's gonna have to get this bad and probably a lot worse for them to move on from Tomlin. Do we have the stomach for it?

I know I do. Not worried about them hitting rock bottom. I have more faith in the GM and Assistant GM to keep the team talented. Even if that took place I would be ok with it as long as they looked for an upgrade. Even the best equipment needs an upgrade eventually. Steelers definitely need it.

 

[troymania]

If this goes the way I think it will and San Diego wins Sunday then they get the 5 seed and we drop to six and have to go to Baltimore. That is not good.

 

[Lloyd]

These talking heads don't understand that us fans can be appreciative of winning football while demanding more of the team. It's not about losing to the last three teams as much as not being competitive with them for all four quarters.

4 now....in a row.

 

[IndySteel]

Mediocre Mike chokes again. He and his yellow *** jaundiced eyes need to get the F out.

 

[Steeler Pride]

I am withholding judgement on Smith because TOMLIN determines the game plan, as proven by nothing really changing with the last 4 OC’s.

This one hundred times over.

 

[BLITZ]

**** it. Def held them to a ton less points than expected.
Offense wakes up next weak and. Destroys Baltimore in their house.

 

[Steeler Pride]

**** it. Def held them to a ton less points than expected.
Offense wakes up next weak and. Destroys Baltimore in their house.

What are you drinking or smoking? Don’t keep that magic **** to yourself!

 

[SteelerFan448]

Tomlin's philosophy on how to win games doesn't cut it.

At least 7 losses in 5 of the past 6 years. A stretch with 4 losses in 5 games last year, 4 losses to the end the season this year.

The only thing we are missing from this year's bingo card is the blowout playoff loss in the first round.

 

[topseed]

The only thing we are missing from this year's bingo card is the blowout playoff loss in the first round.

You can safely check that box off sometime next weekend or late Monday night after the Ravens embarrass the Steelers with another playoff 40-burger. Only way it stays close is if it's some type of weather game.

 

[Badcat]

4 now....in a row.

******* embarrassment, one more game to humiliate the city and her loyal fanbase!

 

[slashsteel]

Tomlin's philosophy on how to win games doesn't cut it.

At least 7 losses in 5 of the past 6 years. A stretch with 4 losses in 5 games last year, 4 losses to the end the season this year.

The only thing we are missing from this year's bingo card is the blowout playoff loss in the first round.

That could very well come next week.

 

[Chris2fer]

It really started when they knew Ben had 1or 2 seasons left and Lamar Jackson was sitting there for the taking and they drafted Terrell Edmunds instead. Been searching for a QB ever since. No disrespect to Terrell but he was not a 1st round pick.they can’t draft tight ends and WR’s now I saw Roman Wilson play 2 snaps this season.