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Tomlin Sucks

Aussie_Steeler said:
And one of the more predictable events, is the Steelers aren't scoring a touchdown on their first offensive drive of the game. Today was apparently their 18th successive game without a touchdown on the opening drive, and last year it took them until November to score on an opening drive. They also had a 23 game run of opening drives without a touchdown in 2019/2020.

Steelers are 25th this year on points per game in the first quarter and 31st in points conceded per game in the first quarter, so not only do they sputter on offence early, they crap out on defence too (remind anyone of anything - like maybe their last four or five playoff appearances).
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So are you saying the Tomlin practices and well scripted game plan isn’t working?

Remember how many of those “Tomlin wins” were a product of Tomlin digging a hole for Ben only for the offense to wake up once Ben was late in the game calling his own plays running the no huddle, sometimes even making plays up in the dirt.

Pretty sad that the QB had a better sense for Xs and Os than the entire offensive coaching staff and HC collectively. Just think what some of these squads could’ve pulled off with legitimate complimentary coaching that actually made them better rather than act as a hurdle
 
Well it’s official

Tomlin has never had a wining season on Netflix!!!

Can we trade the bum now
Everyone else outside the organization seems to think he’s so great, surely someone will cough up some draft capital for him 🤞
 
Chicoman said:
Yes but how would it look for the NFL if the organization who pushed for The Rooney Rule....fires Mike Tomlin?
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Spot on. Now, Ron Rivera was the Rooney rule interview. They "heard" about Tomlin and called him in. I will forever believe that Dungy is who they heard about Tomlin from. Tomlin sweet talked his *** into this job, shame on Tomlin, but to keep him 18 years? Shame on the Rooneys. Rivera had a top 5 defense both years as Chicago defensive coordinator and outperformed Tomlin's defense in the same division, but you hire Tomlin? He wasn't even on your radar. The same Tomlin that went 31st against the pass in Minnesota as defensive coordinator in 2006 is the same Tomlin you've seen since 2011. He has not grown as a coach and never will. But there's no incentive for him to do so. I do not believe the Rooney rule got him hired but I'll be damn if it's not at least keeping him with his job. What other owner would put up with this after giving you all that talent?
 
Steelersfan84 said:
Spot on. Now, Ron Rivera was the Rooney rule interview. They "heard" about Tomlin and called him in. I will forever believe that Dungy is who they heard about Tomlin from. Tomlin sweet talked his *** into this job, shame on Tomlin, but to keep him 18 years? Shame on the Rooneys. Rivera had a top 5 defense both years as Chicago defensive coordinator and outperformed Tomlin's defense in the same division, but you hire Tomlin? He wasn't even on your radar. The same Tomlin that went 31st against the pass in Minnesota as defensive coordinator in 2006 is the same Tomlin you've seen since 2011. He has not grown as a coach and never will. But there's no incentive for him to do so. I do not believe the Rooney rule got him hired but I'll be damn if it's not at least keeping him with his job. What other owner would put up with this after giving you all that talent?
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I don't think it's the Rooney Rule one way or the other. There are positives to not firing and hiring coaches all the time, but there are negatives to keeping one for a long period, too. Tomlin and Rooney are probably close. The families probably know each other well. Tomlin and his wife are ingrained in the community. From all accounts he is a good man. Tomlin is also probably great for most of these young men outside of football. That is what makes it hard to fire the guy. We get all pissed after watching the train wreck we saw yesterday and will fire everybody. Until one of us would actually have to do it. Then the human element comes into play.
 
Chicoman said:
Yes but how would it look for the NFL if the organization who pushed for The Rooney Rule....fires Mike Tomlin?
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If Tomlin had been coach for only couple years, then yeah, eyebrows raised.

Rooney rule or not, Tomlin had been HC for 17 years and his tenure has run its course….don’t care which color he is.

The news of the day would not be that Rooney fired a coach hired under the Rooney rule, but that Rooney fired a head coach period….something the Steelers organization had not done since 1969.
 
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Tomlinoutcoached said:
Tomlin gets out coached again. What else is new! His game plan is really bad. He is allowing Arthur Smith's (AKA matt Canada 2.0) offence to play like a little team. No changes. T Austin blows as a DC. This is what happens with dei hire. Everyone gets open.
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Kelce had nobody within 5-10 yards of him on almost every catch. Tomlin has no shame . None.
 
steelhurt said:
He beat Tomlin’s *** in the last SB we appeared in.
That game the Packers had a depleted defensive backfield and we couldn’t take advantage of it.
Tomlin’s a fraud and always has been. Mediocre coach and that’s all he is.
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I get all that. But it’s irrelevant to my point.
My point in that post was to point out that while the talking heads are calling for McCarthys head, Tomlin is getting a pass.
Tomlin should not get a pass….Tomlins “no losing seasons” is a lame excuse for circling the wagons around him.

BTW…In that Super Bowl was when our elite QB Ben missed a wide open Mike Wallace for a TD (in that depleted secondary)….and Mendenhall fumbled the ball when we had the momentum and driving. That’s not on Tomlin.
 
MT~Forged said:
SECOND week in a row that the HC QUIT ON THE TEAM. Last week, down two scores, 4th down he punts. This week, he did the same exact thing down 3 scores, he punted.

There is no quicker way to lose a locker room than to give up on your team. Giving up is saying your team can’t do it. Worst thing that could have happened was that they failed to convert and they score again. So what, you always continue to find a way to succeed, never give up.

Personally, that would be a fireable offense in my book. To do it twice in a row, I would have walked onto the field and fired him on the spot before the game ended. Let my lawyers argue how that broke his contract, and why I’m not paying.
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And don't think that the players don't pick up on the resignation and surrender. Remember when Ben had the Steelers storming back in the 2nd half of the 2004 AFCCG andf Cowher kicked the FG inside the 5 I think it was down 31-17? I remember Hines Ward looking beaten after that, and I've read that those who were there said it just completely took the air out of the stadium.
 
If the Steelers win next week, get a playoff win in Houston and then get blown out by KC or Buffalo is it a successful season for Tomlin?
 
so Tomlin does NOT suck. He would be the number 1 choice of multiple teams in a second if fired. Lets hope he gets the chance.

He does not suck, but he is not good enough for here. he needs to have a chance elsewhere.

His message is stale. his gameplans do not change no matter who the opponents are. he just isnt good enough to be coach of the Steelers.
 
Hypocycloids said:
I get all that. But it’s irrelevant to my point.
My point in that post was to point out that while the talking heads are calling for McCarthys head, Tomlin is getting a pass.
Tomlin should not get a pass….Tomlins “no losing seasons” is a lame excuse for circling the wagons around him.

BTW…In that Super Bowl was when our elite QB Ben missed a wide open Mike Wallace for a TD (in that depleted secondary)….and Mendenhall fumbled the ball when we had the momentum and driving. That’s not on Tomlin.
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I think without knowing it we are agreeing with each other here.
That’s what my original post was about….McCarthy gets dumped on and Shades gets his annual pass.
All good!
 
steelhurt said:
I think without knowing it we are agreeing with each other here.
That’s what my original post was about….McCarthy gets dumped on and Shades gets his annual pass.
All good!
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McCarthy having Cooper Rush drag this team to a near .500 finish is right out of the Tomlin playbook. McCarthy, Tomlin, and Sean Payton have all had remarkably similar careers. You could toss in John Harbaugh as well.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I've lost track of the historically bad stats the Steelers have achieved under Tomlin, but here is another.





Matt Williamson
@WilliamsonNFL


The #Steelers have three consecutive losses by 14+ more points for the first time since Weeks 5-7 of 1988.
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lol pretty sure last year there was a similar statistic where we had three straight losses by 11 points or something like that so we've stepped up our game this year!
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I've lost track of the historically bad stats the Steelers have achieved under Tomlin, but here is another.





Matt Williamson
@WilliamsonNFL


The #Steelers have three consecutive losses by 14+ more points for the first time since Weeks 5-7 of 1988.
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lol pretty sure last year there was a similar statistic where we had three straight losses by 11 points or something like that so we've stepped up our game this year!
 
SojournerSteel said:
lol pretty sure last year there was a similar statistic where we had three straight losses by 11 points or something like that so we've stepped up our game this year!
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The bad part is it happened last in 1988.....which was the last time we came in last place in our division I believe?
It was also the worst season I remember the Steelers having...and I am an old fart!
 
diver said:
I don't think it's the Rooney Rule one way or the other. There are positives to not firing and hiring coaches all the time, but there are negatives to keeping one for a long period, too. Tomlin and Rooney are probably close. The families probably know each other well. Tomlin and his wife are ingrained in the community. From all accounts he is a good man. Tomlin is also probably great for most of these young men outside of football. That is what makes it hard to fire the guy. We get all pissed after watching the train wreck we saw yesterday and will fire everybody. Until one of us would actually have to do it. Then the human element comes into play.
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The Rooneys are on record admitting how hard it is to fire/hire new coaches even on the assistant level. Even coordinators are hard to fire/hire for the Rooneys, they have admitted that. It's one reason we have only had 3 coaches since the 70s. That's over 50 years. And, yes, the media celebrates the long tenure of each coach, but it's overkill on that front. Can they bring it up more often? Art has come out and said how difficult it is to hire new coaches, it's like a job he doesn't want. He speaks on having to to help relocate a new guy and his family. He doesn't look forward to it.
 
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