Tomlin Sucks

[Djfan]

I'd trade him for a can of tofu and a pair of used crocs.

Crap is as crap does.

It's refreshing to see these posts and not get run off a board for saying what you all are saying.

 

[JMM]

I'd trade him for a can of tofu and a pair of used crocs.

Crap is as crap does.

It's refreshing to see these posts and not get run off a board for saying what you all are saying.

Get the hell out you som *****

 

[Steelmann]

i've asked it before and i'll ask it again...

if we replace Tomlin, and I have no issue with doing that, who do you replace him with? can't just fire a guy and then hope the interview process goes perfectly.

however, if we could use a crystal ball, and know who we could interview and how things would go, I'd be very very very interested in Ben Johnson of Detroit.

https://www.detroitlions.com/team/coaches-roster/ben-johnson

Here’s one for you Supe. First of all I would take Ben Johnson in a heartbeat. Along with every other team looking for a HC. He will be able to pick and ask his own price. Definitely will be the most sought after coach out there.

Dan Lanning
I’ve watched the Oregon Ducks for a few years now. Always right up there offensively and defensively in the Nation. He’s always been impressive. I’d much rather get someone like this than the old rehashed HC’s of the NFL. I’m sure many would not want him because he doesn’t have NFL experience. He’s done well wherever he’s went. I want someone fresh, innovative. He’s married with 3 sons, his wife went through cancer in 2019.

Daniel Arthur Lanning is an American football coach at the University of Oregon. He was previously the defensive coordinator and outside linebackers coach at the University of Georgia from 2019 to 2021. Lanning played college football at William Jewell College as a linebacker from 2004 to 2007. 38 years old. 35-3 record as HC of The Ducks.

 

[Steelr4evr]

If you type Steelers Groundhog day in Google search you will see first national article I've seen using that phrase with team.

We've posted it here many times over the years. Hell it's my yearly thing posting Charlie Brown&Lucy football and the clip with Bill Murray waking up every day at 6am to the exact same day as before...lol.

 

[Drink IRON City]

We've posted it here many times over the years. Hell it's my yearly thing posting Charlie Brown&Lucy football and the clip with Bill Murray waking up every day at 6am to the exact same day as before...lol.

slash has a great avatar of this nature, check it out.


Salute the nation

 

[Coryea]

Here's what drives me crazy. I turn on national sports talk show this morning, and the first thing I hear is "this is what I love about Mike Tomlin and part of what makes him a great coach, he tells it like it is" Then they play the clip of him saying "that sucked" Then the host goes on to rip the players, etc. and not one negative thing about Tomlin.

Then the local guys talk about his lack of a coaching tree, and try to figure out why that is. It's not hard to see and not hard to figure out, Tomlin doesn't want anyone to challenge him and he has to be the smartest guy in the room, he doesn't want to bring in anyone like that. We had Flores in here, he should've been the DC, now he's in Minnesota with the #3 ranked scoring defense.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

McCarthy having Cooper Rush drag this team to a near .500 finish is right out of the Tomlin playbook. McCarthy, Tomlin, and Sean Payton have all had remarkably similar careers. You could toss in John Harbaugh as well.

Harbaugh has a 12-10 record in the playoffs and has done it without a Roethlisberger, Rodgers or Brees at quarterback for most of his coaching career. Jackson has only been a starter for 6 1/2 seasons.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

i've asked it before and i'll ask it again...

if we replace Tomlin, and I have no issue with doing that, who do you replace him with? can't just fire a guy and then hope the interview process goes perfectly.

Tomlin has shown time and again that whilst he can get the Steelers into playoff contention that is as far as he seems to be able to get them with the team and staff he has built. If thegoal is being in contention for super bowls then it is time to move on and try to find someone who can build on the existing foundations to create a super bowl team. You can't expect fans to nominate a replacement, as hiring an NFL head coach comes from an exhaustive process using information fans aren't privy to, interviewing prospects, talking to insiders about potential candidates etc.

 

[stillwright]

Tomlin has shown time and again that whilst he can get the Steelers into playoff contention that is as far as he seems to be able to get them with the team and staff he has built. If thegoal is being in contention for super bowls then it is time to move on and try to find someone who can build on the existing foundations to create a super bowl team. You can't expect fans to nominate a replacement, as hiring an NFL head coach comes from an exhaustive process using information fans aren't privy to, interviewing prospects, talking to insiders about potential candidates etc.

Yep. The goal is to win a SB....not to just make the playoffs. Well that use to be the goal anyways.

 

[Djfan]

I'd trade him for a can of tofu and a pair of used crocs.

Crap is as crap does.

It's refreshing to see these posts and not get run off a board for saying what you all are saying.

Get the hell out you som *****

It's naptime JMM. Go lay down.

 

[SojournerSteel]

Tomlin has shown time and again that whilst he can get the Steelers into playoff contention that is as far as he seems to be able to get them with the team and staff he has built. If thegoal is being in contention for super bowls then it is time to move on and try to find someone who can build on the existing foundations to create a super bowl team. You can't expect fans to nominate a replacement, as hiring an NFL head coach comes from an exhaustive process using information fans aren't privy to, interviewing prospects, talking to insiders about potential candidates etc.

He's had 3 game losing streaks in each of the past 7 seasons, and of course the back to back losses to 2-10 teams at home last year which leads me to an inescapable conclusion: Tomlin should have been gone after the Jags loss and the embarrassing "fireworks with the Pats" fiasco that year. That is when the door slammed shut. When the league passed him by.

Just because "the Rooneys don't operate like that" in no way negates the natural laws of the NFL.

He's done here. Some people just don't know it yet.

 

[Lloyd]

$19 million a year, rewarded. He's one of the highest paid head coaches is all of sports. In the world.

He hasn't won a playoff games going on 8 years, and he's one of the world's highest paid coach? Rooney, have you hit your head? You must have. $19 mill a year for this crap performance and his excuse is the players are focused enough? Who's job is that I wonder?

 

[SteelerSask2]

My truth on Tomlin. Which is true of many athletes I've played with or coached. Though I am no way saying I was myself a star at anything. Just loved sports and competition.
He's good when the talent is his advantage. He can get buy if it's even if they play a certain way. But he is absolutely cooked if it's even or worse and they don't play into his hands which frankly is modern NFL at the highest level. He has no answer on that whatsoever. And no awesome speech or accountability of others is gonna change that.

 

[Coryea]

My truth on Tomlin. Which is true of many athletes I've played with or coached. Though I am no way saying I was myself a star at anything. Just loved sports and competition.
He's good when the talent is his advantage. He can get buy if it's even if they play a certain way. But he is absolutely cooked if it's even or worse and they don't play into his hands which frankly is modern NFL at the highest level. He has no answer on that whatsoever. And no awesome speech or accountability of others is gonna change that.

Tomlin is the exact type of coach that needs high level coordinators and coaches, he can motivate and talk really well, but he sucks at X's and O's.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Tomlin is the exact type of coach that needs high level coordinators and coaches, he can motivate and talk really well, but he sucks at X's and O's.

He was gifted a great DC that knew more about defense than he does to this day when he started his HC career and if memory serves didn’t the Rooneys force the Haley hire on him (arguably his most talented OC)

He needs high level coordinators but never brings them in of his own accord.

He brings in guys like Canada

The Steelers also need to pony up more $$$ and bring in more coaches to increase the size of staff and spend a bit on higher caliber position coaching.

Mike is in over his head as platitudes and pressers don’t win playoff games

 

[Coryea]

He was gifted a great DC that knew more about defense than he does to this day when he started his HC career and if memory serves didn’t the Rooneys force the Haley hire on him (arguably his most talented OC)

He needs high level coordinators but never brings them in of his own accord.

He brings in guys like Canada

The Steelers also need to pony up more $$$ and bring in more coaches to increase the size of staff and spend a bit on higher caliber position coaching.

Mike is in over his head as platitudes and pressers don’t win playoff games

he was also gifted BA, this all started going downhill once Tomlin started taking control from LeBeau and LeBeau ultimately leaving(and those players that were in place when he took over Farrior, Ward, Keisel, Hamp, Troy, Smith, Faneca, Ike etc started to retire). Remember everyone saying the game passed DL and his zone scheme by, but he left here and went to Tenn or helped in Tenn and they ran more man then almost every team in the NFL, showing everyone that Tomlin was the one running the defense. Then when Butler "retired", he was on DVE and said I would've loved to get to call a game, again telling everyone that Tomlin was the one calling the defense. Yet everyone questions whose really calling the plays.

 

[Punxsutawney]

he was also gifted BA, this all started going downhill once Tomlin started taking control from LeBeau and LeBeau ultimately leaving(and those players that were in place when he took over Farrior, Ward, Keisel, Hamp, Troy, Smith, Faneca, Ike etc started to retire). Remember everyone saying the game passed DL and his zone scheme by, but he left here and went to Tenn or helped in Tenn and they ran more man then almost every team in the NFL, showing everyone that Tomlin was the one running the defense. Then when Butler "retired", he was on DVE and said I would've loved to get to call a game, again telling everyone that Tomlin was the one calling the defense. Yet everyone questions whose really calling the plays.

Whenever the cameras show Tomlin between plays on the sideline, it never looks like he's doing much of anything, let alone calling the defense.

We never see him with a play sheet in his hands.

I'm not saying he isn't overly controlling in terms of what he allows his coordinators to call, but I've never seen any direct evidence of him actually making the calls during games.

Butler could have meant he was never given the freedom to call what he wanted, even though he was technically making the calls.

 

[Steelersfan84]

Here's what drives me crazy. I turn on national sports talk show this morning, and the first thing I hear is "this is what I love about Mike Tomlin and part of what makes him a great coach, he tells it like it is" Then they play the clip of him saying "that sucked" Then the host goes on to rip the players, etc. and not one negative thing about Tomlin.

Then the local guys talk about his lack of a coaching tree, and try to figure out why that is. It's not hard to see and not hard to figure out, Tomlin doesn't want anyone to challenge him and he has to be the smartest guy in the room, he doesn't want to bring in anyone like that. We had Flores in here, he should've been the DC, now he's in Minnesota with the #3 ranked scoring defense.

Ain't that a *****, cause Tomlin ran the 31st ranked pass defense in Minnesota in 2006!

 

[Djfan]

1st in run defense, last in pass defense, 8th over all.

Tomlin when hired link

 

[jiminoh]

I'd trade him for a can of tofu and a pair of used crocs.

Crap is as crap does.

It's refreshing to see these posts and not get run off a board for saying what you all are saying.

It's been long enough, and painfully obvious with what's going on. I'm pretty sure Mike T. might be the absolute, ABSOLUTE last man standing since the last SB appearance. Owners, managers, assistant coaches, players, etc. All gone. He's the only one left.

And yet, somehow the team keeps playing the same way on offense and defense for the last 8 years or so, and actually seems to be getting worse IMO. Slow starts, make no mistakes, and then, uh-oh "we have a problem Houston" late in the game and finally start to put up some points, but it's not enough or just barely enough against what I would consider the better teams. And somehow, 2-win teams continually beat us without issue. I was so happy to see Ben draw the plays in the sand and do his magic. Nope, that's gone too.

I realize this is a Steelers FAN forum, and trolls should be called out. But for the love of God, getting chastised, or being run off because you post something that is absolutely correct is a bit much. I've been a fan since 1973 as a child and got the Steelers toboggan I wanted for Christmas. And it wasn't cheap for my parents to buy at SEARS.

https://www.steelernation.com/2024/12/26/steelers-mike-tomlin-should-necessary

 

[Stainless]

I don't know if this has been posted, but https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...8f1a6444304bfb94debfded4a9c1c3&ei=76#comments

 

[jiminoh]

I don't know if this has been posted, but https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...8f1a6444304bfb94debfded4a9c1c3&ei=76#comments

Good article and spot on.

"The defense-first mentality has actually hurt the defense more than anything. T.J. Watt, Cam Heyward, Minkah Fitzpatrick - all have been wasted, more or less, because the Steelers have won no games that matter with them because of the lack of firepower offensively."

"Tomlin is a good coach, but he’s also stuck in his ways, not showing the ability to evolve, and consistently collapses at the most important part of the year. And in doing so, while he raises the floor of the Steelers, he also lowers the ceiling which has kept Pittsburgh trapped in purgatory."

 

[Steelersfan84]

Good article and spot on.

"The defense-first mentality has actually hurt the defense more than anything. T.J. Watt, Cam Heyward, Minkah Fitzpatrick - all have been wasted, more or less, because the Steelers have won no games that matter with them because of the lack of firepower offensively."

"Tomlin is a good coach, but he’s also stuck in his ways, not showing the ability to evolve, and consistently collapses at the most important part of the year. And in doing so, while he raises the floor of the Steelers, he also lowers the ceiling which has kept Pittsburgh trapped in purgatory."

Then he's not a good coach.