Very interesting with Aiyuk

[Litos]

is that Hal from space odissey?

 

[Sarge]

So Cleveland is paying their QB an obscene amount of $ and yet they are so far under the cap ($25 mill). We are paying literal peanuts for our QBs and yet we are only $15 million under the cap. So much for Tomlin's master plan of offering the most expensive defense in the NFL and what that gets you. We were 21st in D last year while Cleveland was #1. But we paid more $ than ANY NFL team for our D. That's great Tomlin, way to go. No wonder players love you: You pay the most and expect very little. But then offer snappy quips on top! Who can beat that?

I think the right coordinator gets that defense much closer to #1. Hiring a guy that has failed everywhere he’s been to be our DC isn’t necessarily a winning strategy.

 

[madinsomniac]

So Cleveland is paying their QB an obscene amount of $ and yet they are so far under the cap ($25 mill). We are paying literal peanuts for our QBs and yet we are only $15 million under the cap. So much for Tomlin's master plan of offering the most expensive defense in the NFL and what that gets you. We were 21st in D last year while Cleveland was #1. But we paid more $ than ANY NFL team for our D. That's great Tomlin, way to go. No wonder players love you: You pay the most and expect very little. But then offer snappy quips on top! Who can beat that?

Ok follow this ...

This year 2024 the steelers have 16 million in space and tge Browns have 29 million.. BUT

In 2025
Steelers have 78 million in cap space
The browns are at -60 million over

In 2026
Steelers have 178 million in cap space
The browns are at -15 million over

In 2027
Steelers have 278 million in cap space
The browns have 175 million in cap space

Meaning over the next 4 years.. the browns have a total cap space( not per year) of 129 million dollars ( with some contracts already pushed out to 2028) that has anticipated cap increases included already...

The Steelers in the same timeframe, have 550 million dollars.. and if both our QBs blow, we arent stuck paying them a zillion dollars till the end of time

550>129...

 

[madinsomniac]

So even if we do sign one of the two qbs for a 3 year extension at 40 mil per year, we would still have 430 million in cap space over that time... we can sign several decent extensions and still be in good shape

 

[stillwright]

I think the right coordinator gets that defense much closer to #1. Hiring a guy that has failed everywhere he’s been to be our DC isn’t necessarily a winning strategy.

Tomlin likes "Yes men" for his DC's. Ever since Tomlin started digging his fingers into the defense it has slowly gotten worse until now we see what we have...

 

[Litos]

Ok follow this ...

This year 2024 the steelers have 16 million in space and tge Browns have 29 million.. BUT

In 2025
Steelers have 78 million in cap space
The browns are at -60 million over

In 2026
Steelers have 178 million in cap space
The browns are at -15 million over

In 2027
Steelers have 278 million in cap space
The browns have 175 million in cap space

Meaning over the next 4 years.. the browns have a total cap space( not per year) of 129 million dollars ( with some contracts already pushed out to 2028) that has anticipated cap increases included already...

The Steelers in the same timeframe, have 550 million dollars.. and if both our QBs blow, we arent stuck paying them a zillion dollars till the end of time

550>129...

facts

 

[SCSteeler4life]

They are trying to find a 3rd team to get 9ers the WR they want. Great job by Kahn not giving up our WR's or TE. He will not sign a extension with the bad teams. The Pats offered him the bank. He wants to be a Steeler, hope they get it done. If we let go of Daniels or Moore we would get comp pics for them also to soften the blow on the picks we have to trade.

 

[Litos]

They are trying to find a 3rd team to get 9ers the WR they want. Great job by Kahn not giving up our WR's or TE. He will not sign a extension with the bad teams. The Pats offered him the bank. He wants to be a Steeler, hope they get it done. If we let go of Daniels or Moore we would get comp pics for them also to soften the blow on the picks we have to trade.

hope that comes with a home town discount. Aiyuk's plan is to get tomlin's dna to confirm something on his mind

 

[MT~Forged]

I think the right coordinator gets that defense much closer to #1. Hiring a guy that has failed everywhere he’s been to be our DC isn’t necessarily a winning strategy.

That is assuming that the current DC is the one making the gameplan and implementing it.

 

[jitter77]

So Cleveland is paying their QB an obscene amount of $ and yet they are so far under the cap ($25 mill). We are paying literal peanuts for our QBs and yet we are only $15 million under the cap. So much for Tomlin's master plan of offering the most expensive defense in the NFL and what that gets you. We were 21st in D last year while Cleveland was #1. But we paid more $ than ANY NFL team for our D. That's great Tomlin, way to go. No wonder players love you: You pay the most and expect very little. But then offer snappy quips on top! Who can beat that?

Im pretty sure Tomlin doesnt pay the players or do the contracts.

 

[KentuckySteeler]

How connected is Garafallo ? He thinks the deal gets done with The Steelers in "fairly short order".

 

[diver]

I think the right coordinator gets that defense much closer to #1. Hiring a guy that has failed everywhere he’s been to be our DC isn’t necessarily a winning strategy.

I am perplexed with the dislike of Austin. Is he Dick LeBeau? No. But in 2 years as DC, they have been 9-8 and 10-7 with a playoff appearance while having a terrible offense. He has also had TJ Watt out a number of games and then when he did play not himself his first year, Minkah and Heyward hurt a lot in his second year, and they were pulling safeties off of the street. They had terrible ILB play his first year, and when it got better his second year, they all got hurt. Its a cheap shot to rip him. I think he's done a solid job.

 

[Confluence]

Ok follow this ...

This year 2024 the steelers have 16 million in space and tge Browns have 29 million.. BUT

In 2025
Steelers have 78 million in cap space
The browns are at -60 million over

In 2026
Steelers have 178 million in cap space
The browns are at -15 million over

In 2027
Steelers have 278 million in cap space
The browns have 175 million in cap space

Meaning over the next 4 years.. the browns have a total cap space( not per year) of 129 million dollars ( with some contracts already pushed out to 2028) that has anticipated cap increases included already...

The Steelers in the same timeframe, have 550 million dollars.. and if both our QBs blow, we arent stuck paying them a zillion dollars till the end of time

550>129...

what are the NFL averages each season? The benefit is relative, not actual ( ordinal, not cardinal for those figure skating fans)

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

I am perplexed with the dislike of Austin. Is he Dick LeBeau? No. But in 2 years as DC, they have been 9-8 and 10-7 with a playoff appearance while having a terrible offense. He has also had TJ Watt out a number of games and then when he did play not himself his first year, Minkah and Heyward hurt a lot in his second year, and they were pulling safeties off of the street. They had terrible ILB play his first year, and when it got better his second year, they all got hurt. Its a cheap shot to rip him. I think he's done a solid job.

not a bad take.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Tomlin likes "Yes men" for his DC's. Ever since Tomlin started digging his fingers into the defense it has slowly gotten worse until now we see what we have...

That mantra of bend but don’t break, keep it close, is old wore out. It works with average teams, but come playoff time…..

those teams blow us Away. You have to keep that foot on the gas and take a risk to get bigger outcome.

Keeping the ball in front of you and never going for the interception, whereas the opposing team is willing to take that risk and

gets a score, game changer. DC Tomlin’s scheme is old news and behind the times. Maybe this year it kicks up a notch or two.

Last time this “D” was in the upper class, it took 10- first rounders to achieve that.


Salute the nation

 

[Confluence]

CBS report on this suggest that 9ers want 2 firsts and a WR body. That cannot be the same ballpark Omar is in.

 

[Litos]

Read that yesterday

CBS report on this suggest that 9ers want 2 firsts and a WR body. That cannot be the same ballpark

 

[topseed]

CBS report on this suggest that 9ers want 2 firsts and a WR body. That cannot be the same ballpark Omar is in.

That's too much.

 

[keslerclan]

IMO, you cannot have a top rated defense if you are on the field the whole game because your offense stinks. Our offense has not provided enough time of possession to benefit our defense, Likewise, IF the defense IS leading in number of plays defensed, their stats will increase (both the good ones and the bad ones).

IF we can establish time of possession this season, we will see what HCMT's defense is capable of, IMO. If not, we will see a rinse/repeat of the last few years.

I don't think having/not-having a 30M receiver changes the offenses ability to control the clock. A second dynamic TE might though, assuming we run a similar offense to what Smith ran in Tennessee. Time will tell.

 

[Lloyd]

IMO, you cannot have a top rated defense if you are on the field the whole game because your offense stinks. Our offense has not provided enough time of possession to benefit our defense, Likewise, IF the defense IS leading in number of plays defensed, their stats will increase (both the good ones and the bad ones).

IF we can establish time of possession this season, we will see what HCMT's defense is capable of, IMO. If not, we will see a rinse/repeat of the last few years.

I don't think having/not-having a 30M receiver changes the offenses ability to control the clock. A second dynamic TE might though, assuming we run a similar offense to what Smith ran in Tennessee. Time will tell.

We've had 16 years of rinse and repeat for this team, one more?

 

[Lloyd]

Tomlin likes "Yes men" for his DC's. Ever since Tomlin started digging his fingers into the defense it has slowly gotten worse until now we see what we have...

All the way to 21st in 2023. With THE most expensive D in the NFL. Way to go mediocre Mike. Everything you touch turns to mediocre. EVERYTHING.

 

[Lloyd]

I think the right coordinator gets that defense much closer to #1. Hiring a guy that has failed everywhere he’s been to be our DC isn’t necessarily a winning strategy.

Yea but does this DC kiss Shade @ss? That's what's most important on this team. You must kiss Shade @ss, that's what matters most.

 

[CoolieMan]

Yea but does this DC kiss Shade @ss? That's what's most important on this team. You must kiss Shade @ss, that's what matters most.

you are so ******* full of ****

there is no way you actually believe this

**** get a life

get laid

do something

your ******* obsession with Tomlin is disturbing

 

[SteelerSask2]

I am perplexed with the dislike of Austin. Is he Dick LeBeau? No. But in 2 years as DC, they have been 9-8 and 10-7 with a playoff appearance while having a terrible offense. He has also had TJ Watt out a number of games and then when he did play not himself his first year, Minkah and Heyward hurt a lot in his second year, and they were pulling safeties off of the street. They had terrible ILB play his first year, and when it got better his second year, they all got hurt. Its a cheap shot to rip him. I think he's done a solid job.

Yeah but they have a gazillion dollars invested and a lot of people don't like the passive bend don't break no splash play mentality.
Like let's get real here. Cam, Queen, TJ, Minkah are all making individually what all the offensive skill guys make collectively. If this defense isn't damn good somethings really wrong.

 

[madinsomniac]

what are the NFL averages each season? The benefit is relative, not actual ( ordinal, not cardinal for those figure skating fans)

You can go to "over the cap" and they have a list of teams projected cap space out to 2027

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

... this year we are in the middle of the pack,
But the next 3 years we are top 3 in space each year..