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We need a new Head Coach.......FIRE TOMLIN NOW!!!

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This is not the 80's by any stretch. This team has a lot of talent. I am sorry but I truly believe that. I see other teams out there that can get their young players playing well and even great in year one or year two, at worst. Why we can't do it still baffles and pisses me off. I know the Rooney's won't clean house but if it were my team, I would. Tomlin, Haley, LeBeau, and the front office are gone. We have enough talent, young and old, to win and win a SB before Ben hangs it up. The team needs new leadership and new ways of doing things that will actually work. This team has been under-performing for years. And, that goes straight to the coaches to rectify and they have not and obviously can not.
 
Honestly.. I refuse to believe that all these guys we draft to play defense just all stink

Our talent evaluation can't be that bad, as we see a lot of talented guys coming through the draft on offense.. It can't be so night and day for the defensive side of the ball

There has to be more to this. And it has to involve coaching.
 
I am often on here to slam MT when he is below the line in my opinion but also have to give him credit when he is above it.

I thought this game against the Bengals was one of his better performances. The offensive game plan was failing do to some slightly poor execution early on and some really good defense by the bungles. They did not go into panic mode but kept at it. Going for two points was a huge move and MT was yelling it out on the sidelines as soon as they scored. Had it become a scoring race where we run out of time overtime was still a chance to win the game. Taking the penalty instead of forth and two was a fantastic choice as well clearly burning time and getting the Bengals out of four down field position.

The Steelers were able to stay close when getting behind so they still had all of the offensive options on the field. The only thing I saw that was an issue happened on second and short on a few occasions when runs lost yardage. That looked to me like a good chance to play action and try intermediate to long routes on play action as the bungles were playing short yardage on defense.

The coaches looked like they coached a good game against a quality opponent and made some good choices during the game. This one was above the line if you will.
 
Agreed, this is one of his better performances. The problem is this has happened before, only to see him crap the bed again. I'd like to say that won't happen, we'll see.
The best move he made was FINALLY sitting Taylor's worthless butt on the bench.
 
Honestly.. I refuse to believe that all these guys we draft to play defense just all stink

Our talent evaluation can't be that bad, as we see a lot of talented guys coming through the draft on offense.. It can't be so night and day for the defensive side of the ball

There has to be more to this. And it has to involve coaching.

There are several things that go into this, first I would put some of the blame on the drafting, or lack thereof in the secondary. Haven't touched a corner before the third round in who knows how long. Second, our lack of a passrush is making our secondary look even worse. When we start getting consistent pressure, someone goes down. Heyward is our best pass rusher right now, Jones was at least starting to turn the corner to start the year and then he goes down to injury and sets it all back. Debo was starting to get his legs under him, and produce some pressure, he goes down. Worilds has been inconsistent all year long.

next years draft should concentrate on DB and OLB, at least IMO.
 
It was a well coached game today, but still does not change my overall opinion. Was Taylor benched because he was banged up or because he stunk? I would be impressed if tomlin benched Mitchell. He stinks and runs his mouth. My favorite was when Blake (i think) broke up the deep pass to green and Mitchell got his hands on the tip. He yelled and celebrated as if he made the play. I also liked when troy was pointing at him the whole time on the long Td. He is plain horrible.... He and troy are a terrible combo
 
It was a well coached game today, but still does not change my overall opinion. Was Taylor benched because he was banged up or because he stunk? I would be impressed if tomlin benched Mitchell. He stinks and runs his mouth. My favorite was when Blake (i think) broke up the deep pass to green and Mitchell got his hands on the tip. He yelled and celebrated as if he made the play. I also liked when troy was pointing at him the whole time on the long Td. He is plain horrible.... He and troy are a terrible combo

Actually they both made good plays on that pass. Blake had good coverage and tipped the ball, and Mitchell made sure it wasn't caught on the rebound.

Troy is the guy who needs to hang them up after this season. He is consistently out of position, and has lost most of the makeup speed that allowed him to compensate in the past.
 
Shout out to Haley for calling a great game yesterday. Doing two things I've been asking for running a play thats working over and over. That was beautiful. Also finally calling a screen for Bell. Hope that continues. Get the ball in that man's hands.
 
There was a play i saw yesterday ran by Cicny, that I hope we incorporate. The line up was trips right for what looked like a WR screen. Daulton with the pump fake on the screen, turns and dumps to his RB who picks up a nice gain. We us the WR screen so much, that it's good to have options out of the same look.

I also like when Miller fakes the block WR on the screen and runs a go. We haven't run that in a while.
 
There was a play i saw yesterday ran by Cicny, that I hope we incorporate. The line up was trips right for what looked like a WR screen. Daulton with the pump fake on the screen, turns and dumps to his RB who picks up a nice gain. We us the WR screen so much, that it's good to have options out of the same look.

I also like when Miller fakes the block WR on the screen and runs a go. We haven't run that in a while.

Yes that was a well excuted play by the bengals.
 
would this mean that Tomlin's bumbling bullshit is better than the other eight coaches he's faced this season?
 
I liked one play Seattle ran. Wilson faked to lynch and rolled out hard. All receivers and TEs also rolled the same way. Lynch went the other way and the defense all went with the offense. Lynch was wide open for a Td.
 
would this mean that Tomlin's bumbling bullshit is better than the other eight coaches he's faced this season?

I have not tried to compare him to the other eight coaches bumbling bullshit nor am I inclined to. I think he should sink or swim on his own merits. His position should display a certain level of competence on the sideline and in the administration of the team. I remember times that I have considered him below the line if you will he he is embraced by that, in fact one could say he was enveloped by that. Yesterdays performance was an above the line performance and I'll bet he embraces that while he and the team head back to the lab in an effort to stack wins.
 
well, obviously yesterday's performance was of pedigree profile. the whole team, mostly, played well, despite AJ Green raping us for yards. I agree that Tomlin's merits should be graded as they stand and not compared to others, but we all know that that is impossible and not the norm on this very board. Comparisons to other coaches are inevitable, based on records, team coincidences and what not. With that being the standard on this board, if you will.
 
http://triblive.com/mobile/7298565-96/steelers-touchdown-yard

Steelers use big 4th quarter to dump Bengals
By Mark Kaboly Steelers Reporter
Sunday, Dec. 7, 2014, 4:27 p.m.
Updated 6 hours ago

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CINCINNATI — With his team facing near-impossible odds to claim the division with a loss to AFC North-leading Cincinnati on Sunday at Paul Brown Stadium, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin wasn't about to hold anything back.

And he didn't.

Despite being on the road in the shadow of his goal posts with eight minutes left, Ben Roethlisberger threw a 94-yard game-clinching touchdown to rookie Martavis Bryant to seal a 42-21 win over the Bengals that helped the Steelers remain in control of their fate over the final three weeks.

If the playoffs ended today, the Steelers (8-5) would be one of the two wild-card teams. However, if they win out — at Atlanta and home to Kansas City and Cincinnati — they would win the division and host a playoff game.

Of course, a couple of losses could mean no playoffs.

“Honestly, every game is big now,” center Maurkice Pouncey said. “This is the NFL, man. If we would've won all the games at first, we wouldn't be talking about how big this one is.”

The Bengals are 8-4-1, the Steelers 8-5 and the Ravens 8-5 in the AFC North with a host of other teams still alive.

“We had to punch our clocks early,” guard Ramon Foster said. “Our playoffs have started now. We had to punch our ticket now. We understand that there is a sense of urgency with everybody.”

It started with Tomlin nearly a week ago.

“The thing that I saw was when we came in after the loss (to New Orleans) was his focus,” safety Mike Mitchell said. “He didn't let anybody sulk. He quickly got us refocused, and that's what we needed.”


That and Tomlin's proclamation that “We just weren't going to live in our fears today.”

That mentality had a trickle-down effect.

“We weren't going to play it safe,” Foster said.

“We weren't going to play scared,” Roethlisberger said.

The Steelers were far from afraid of the Bengals.

In fact, they stared down a pair of deficits — the last coming after A.J. Green hauled in an 81-yard touchdown pass from Andy Dalton on the final play of the third quarter.

No fear.

The Steelers scored 25 points over an eight-minute span in the fourth quarter, and they did it every way imaginable.

• They ran the ball.

Le'Veon Bell rushed for 110 of his game-high 185 yards, including touchdown runs of 13 and 22 yards.

“We ran the same play two, three, four times in a row, consecutively, and those guys couldn't stop it,” Bell said.

• The much-maligned defense created a key turnover.

After Shaun Suisham's 44-yard field goal got the Steelers within 21-20, Dalton — who rushed for a 20-yard touchdown earlier in the game — had a bad exchange with running back Jeremy Hill. Arthur Moats recovered at the Bengals 24 with 12:45 left. It led to a Bell touchdown run and, after a successful 2-point play, a 28-21 lead.

“When he dropped it, it was like he double-clutched it,” Moats said. “When it hit the ground, we all just went for it.”

• The Steelers threw the ball.

Leading 28-21 with less than nine minutes left, the Steelers went for it. Backed up on the Steelers 6, Roethlisberger, who finished with 350 yards and three touchdown passes, let it rip to Bryant.

“I've underthrown him in practice because when he gets running, he's fast,” Roethlisberger said. “I just put it out there and let him run under it, and he did the rest.”

It was the second-longest touchdown reception in Steelers history.

It was a risk but a risk Tomlin was willing to take.

“That's life, particularly in this league,” Tomlin said.

Especially when you don't live in your fears.

“He was into it. He was pumped up,” Pouncey said about Tomlin. “When you are a leader and take charge like that and show that kind of spirit, it brings everybody else up. It was huge.”


Good to see the guys still respond to his leadership.
 
Honestly.. I refuse to believe that all these guys we draft to play defense just all stink

Our talent evaluation can't be that bad, as we see a lot of talented guys coming through the draft on offense.. It can't be so night and day for the defensive side of the ball

There has to be more to this. And it has to involve coaching.

So, you're cool with this bunch of pass rushers? You think they are good, huh?
 
Awesome job Coach Tomlin!!! Now let's get the job done these next three weeks.
 
welcome back troll. Didn't see you much last week.
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“The thing that I saw was when we came in after the loss (to New Orleans) was his focus,” safety Mike Mitchell said. “He didn't let anybody sulk. He quickly got us refocused, and that's what we needed.”
They sulk? WTF? I'm trying to picture Belichick talking about this genius coaching trick. "The big thing this week was avoiding the sulking. We did that and played well."

Now if we can just avoid the pushing of guys to the ground in practice, we can really get everyone's self esteem up to where it needs to be.
 
They sulk? WTF? I'm trying to picture Belichick talking about this genius coaching trick. "The big thing this week was avoiding the sulking. We did that and played well."

Now if we can just avoid the pushing of guys to the ground in practice, we can really get everyone's self esteem up to where it needs to be.

LOL!! Everyone knows real coaching starts and ends with feelings. Well, posture, then feelings. They say J.J. Watt became what he is today by making a pros/cons list about winning. And he stood up straight while he did it.

Not the first time this dude has pointed to cute catchphrases from interviews as proof of The Tomlin Mystique.
 
Im sorry where exactly was the cute catchphrase?
 
Im sorry where exactly was the cute catchphrase?

I don't know why you bother, AJ. Don't you know what people say is irrelevant. You can watch a 20 second video and figure out all kinds of stuff, or just rely on what you infer from other actions rather than listening to people.
 
Yes we can write titangraphs and speculate all day and sprout it as fact. Lol your right..
 
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