Why we are the worst screen team

[Greg Lloyd]

In case no one else noticed, we can't even run screen plays successfully. It seems like a play "pee-your-pants-on-any-turnover" would love to run but we just suck at running them. Why? Because unlike all the other QBs, Kenny even stares that play down. You would think he could easily be coached out of it, but he either can't be or they haven't bothered to try. Regardless, when we run a screen play from the snap Kenny immediately stares at the RB in the flat where he intends to throw the ball, alerting the defense and they cover it. It's so telegraphed that he has a tough time even getting the back the ball to begin with, as there is no space.

I noticed in this Tampa-Detroit game that Baker had the sense to look off the back he was throwing the screen to. It works much better that way and did for a TD. Just one more thing Kenny stinks at.

 

[BLITZ]

Did you base this on the 1.2(completely made up number) slants per game that was called?

 

[Drink IRON City]

Mason did a pretty good job of looking off the RB and coming back to him for the screen pass.

You’re right though, our screen game leaks.


Salute the nation

 

[Litos]

In case no one else noticed, we can't even run screen plays successfully. It seems like a play "pee-your-pants-on-any-turnover" would love to run but we just suck at running them. Why? Because unlike all the other QBs, Kenny even stares that play down. You would think he could easily be coached out of it, but he either can't be or they haven't bothered to try. Regardless, when we run a screen play from the snap Kenny immediately stares at the RB in the flat where he intends to throw the ball, alerting the defense and they cover it. It's so telegraphed that he has a tough time even getting the back the ball to begin with, as there is no space.

I noticed in this Tampa-Detroit game that Baker had the sense to look off the back he was throwing the screen to. It works much better that way and did for a TD. Just one more thing Kenny stinks at.

One would think that a qb coach and or OC should and would fix this easily.

 

[Greg Lloyd]

One would think that a qb coach and or OC should and would fix this easily.

That's what I was thinking too.

 

[Paul G]

One would think that a qb coach and or OC should and would fix this easily.

what are those ??

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Again, watch other teams’ games and you can see how far behind we are.

 

[Greg Lloyd]

Again, watch other teams’ games and you can see how far behind we are.

If I hadn't noticed it myself I would question your comments accuracy, thinking our staff would have to be competent enough to take care of this area, but no, they hadn't. It is obvious that they allowed screen passes to fall in the realm of "simple things needing addressed but haven't done so." Incredible what this staff screws up.

 

[slashsteel]

what are those ??

Coaches that can make a difference in critical moments developing rookies or vets into better versions of themselves. But that isn't important right now.

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[madinsomniac]

So... um whats tge excuse for us sucking at screens for the last 17 years? This is not a recent thing... its been happening since arians took over from whiz

 

[MT~Forged]

Tomlin is on record say that if you can’t already play your position, they can’t help you. They expect the players to come in and run the plays, “coaching up” players is not what they are interested in devoting time to.

 

[Litos]

Tomlin is on record say that if you can’t already play your position, they can’t help you. They expect the players to come in and run the plays, “coaching up” players is not what they are interested in devoting time to.

Then they drafted him with those mistakes and is their fault

 

[Omar10213245]

Tomlin is on record say that if you can’t already play your position, they can’t help you. They expect the players to come in and run the plays, “coaching up” players is not what they are interested in devoting time to.

Which I hate, its such a horse **** mindset as a coach, and illustrates exactly why this team looks the way they do, year after year. The best coaches in the league put a premium on coaching up their players, REGARDLESS of the player's talent and/or skill level. A coach should be a teacher of the game, first and foremost

 

[Gildong Sack]

One would think that a qb coach and or OC should and would fix this easily.

We haven't been competent at screens since Whisenhunt. Arians condemned this team to the run,run, pass 3rd and long= low%(who remembers when they couldn't score a TD in the red zone because of this?...LOL...good times...), then probably punt, offense.

It continued with Haley, though there were some breaks from it as Haley's philosophy is different (go big chunk at times on first or second) then a return to it with Fichtner, Canada(difference using jet sweeps on first and second at times) and all this was because of Ben and him being entrenched with B.A.'s offense.

They need to re work the playbook completely with whomever is brought in from the outside. Tomlin needs to not meddle as we know he'll want to keep the status quo....Rooney needs to make this clear and be heavily involved with the new OC(I know...I know..Jerry Jones we don't want, but someone needs to intervene with Tomlin and his offensive incompetence)
We need a big time F.A. wide receiver as well to stretch the field. Drops Johnson and Trippin Pickens aren't enough. If this isn't done we are doomed to the seasonal version of Groundhog Day.....believe me no one in their right mind wants to sing the duet "I Got You Babe" with Tomlin.

 

[Gildong Sack]

We haven't been competent at screens since Whisenhunt. Arians condemned this team to the run,run, pass 3rd and long= low%(who remembers when they couldn't score a TD in the red zone because of this?...LOL...good times...), then probably punt, offense.

It continued with Haley, though there were some breaks from it as Haley's philosophy is different (go big chunk at times on first or second) then a return to it with Fichtner, Canada(difference using jet sweeps on first and second at times) and all this was because of Ben and him being entrenched with B.A.'s offense.

They need to re work the playbook completely with whomever is brought in from the outside. Tomlin needs to not meddle as we know he'll want to keep the status quo....Rooney needs to make this clear and be heavily involved with the new OC(I know...I know..Jerry Jones we don't want, but someone needs to intervene with Tomlin and his offensive incompetence)
We need a big time F.A. wide receiver as well to stretch the field. Drops Johnson and Trippin Pickens aren't enough. If this isn't done we are doomed to the seasonal version of Groundhog Day.....believe me no one in their right mind wants to sing "I Got You Babe" with Tomlin.

I failed to mention the QB. It's probably going to be Mason O'Donnell or whatever F.A. is brought in (let the Wilson bashing begin) don't have much faith in Kenny...but hey surprise us.

 

[SteelerSask2]

With Ben the Steelers were tge worst running back screen team in the league. By far. Everyone who played this weekend used the running back in the pass game more efficiently then the Steelers

 

[SteelerSask2]

But I will say this I put this drawback on the QBs more than any other. It should he that is a gravy matchup as opposed to my last option. Especially with Harris.

 

[stillwright]

Which I hate, its such a horse **** mindset as a coach, and illustrates exactly why this team looks the way they do, year after year. The best coaches in the league put a premium on coaching up their players, REGARDLESS of the player's talent and/or skill level. A coach should be a teacher of the game, first and foremost

And a coach should attack their opponents weakness. Something Tomlin doesn't do.

 

[xjx]

Worst screen team? Get some hot cheerleaders. That will perk up the screen.

Oops. Wrong screen.

 

[SteelerSask2]

And a coach should attack their opponents weakness. Something Tomlin doesn't do.

I disagree. Good coaching is all about quality catch phrases like sticky fingerprints on the trophy, and scared money don't make money.

 

[Greg Lloyd]

So... um whats tge excuse for us sucking at screens for the last 17 years? This is not a recent thing... its been happening since arians took over from whiz

I'm not sure but I recall screens working just fine with Cowher teams.

 

[Greg Lloyd]

And a coach should attack their opponents weakness. Something Tomlin doesn't do.

It's even worse than that: After he discovers his game plan is completely ineffective against a team he does nothing to alter the game plan. Such a simpleton.