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William Jackson lll to Steelers

SteelerSask2 said:
I realize that but it's still a body in that package which already has Minkah and Edmunds who sure as hell are not coming off.
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You can move Edmunds in and take Bush off the field and put Kaz in Edmund's old spot.
 
Litos said:
Right where toastkello withersburn used to play
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It is a shame he looked like he had found a groove for awhile. Then the offseason. He never came off the offseason at the same level. Then the injury. Then the **** show.
 
Litos said:
Kazee always played S during preseason, wether it was FS, SS or 3rd S in nickel/dime
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I think I’d play Edmunds in the box as a utility player and have Kazee and Fitzpatrick up high. Edmunds has been above par this year but he’s always been good in the box.
 
topseed said:
Uh-oh.

From CBSsports.com:
"Jackson reportedly was not happy with the amount of zone coverage he was playing in Washington, as he considers himself a man-to-man defensive back. In 16 games played for Washington, Jackson recorded 55 combined tackles, 10 passes defensed and two interceptions."

Yeah, he'll be a great fit in Pittsburgh. They never play a lot of zone coverage.
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The DC has said the Corners play outside man, they always have. The safeties and nickle/dime backs play either zone or man, depending on the formation.
 
Ike Kelly said:
The DC has said the Corners play outside man, they always have. The safeties and nickle/dime backs play either zone or man, depending on the formation.
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Yeah, outside man off coverage, usually 8+ yards from the line of scrimmage. They certainly have always done a lot of that, it seems.

On the third Eagles' touchdown, Witherspoon was lined up 9 yards off the ball on the Steelers' 30, and AJ Brown still blew past him. That doesn't play to Jackson's strengths. He's a press coverage corner.
 
Not a good review from his former coach


"We were looking for a guy that had a specific skill set that could understand the match coverages and play and play the match coverages we do with everybody else,” Rivera said. “He struggled with it because he really is a man-coverage type of guy. So along the lines, during our evaluation process, we were wrong.”
 
Man, I'm not around and a bunch of you are running around like chickens with their heads cut off on the Spotrac numbers.

You read the contract and look at the numbers and you can see they improperly assigned the $9M dead cap (which is the remaining pro-rated amount of his signing bonus) incorrectly to the Steelers. If you scroll down farther, you see they correctly assigned it to the Washington team, but failed to remove it from the Steelers cap (which they eventually will).

Also it was a $15M signing bonus and $26M Guaranteed. Washington is on the hook for:
$15M Signing bonus
$1.656M Salary and bonus 21'
$7.648M Salary and bonuses from 22' already accrued

$3.174M Remaining Salary and roster bonus from 22' to the Steelers

$27M total takes care of all of his guaranteed money, so the Steelers can release him next year without penalty prior to his $3.25M roster bonus that would kick in around March 17th next year.

Plus the value of this trade is insane. We are SWAPPING picks 3 years from now. Conditionally it is us swapping a 6th for a 7th. And I don't know the conditions, but this may be null and void on a release, I'm not sure till I see the conditions.

Draft value drops a round each year, so on the value chart, Omar pulled off swapping a 9th round draft pick for a 10th round draft pick, conditionally! Essentially swapping UDRFAs

Excellent value trade no matter how you slice this.
 
why would he do that Stryker?
 
With his level of play this year he realized he was stealing, and felt bad. And that Washington team is 2 games better than us.
 
CoolieMan said:
as a thank you for getting him the hell out of washington
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They were going to cut him anyway. It must be a net benefit to the Steelers taking over the rest of his contract....It will be good to know the whole set of details on the deal
 
Confluence said:
why would he do that Stryker?
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Also this lends well to the narrative that he wanted to be in Pittsburgh.

It's also a way for a player to show how committed they are on getting a new start. I don't need that roster bonus, I'm going to show you that I will be an incredible player for your city and team.

If he has a great year, he's already shown he's a team player, and will negotiate long term to stay here.

Cool stuff!
 
CoolieMan said:
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Steelers Newest Addition William Jackson III Ecstatic To Join The Black And Gold Ahead of Week 10 Home Game

The Pittsburgh Steelers were all set to draft William Jackson III in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft. Just before the Steelers were set to pick him, the Cincinnati Bengals leapfrogged the Steelers and took Jackson with the 24th pick of the draft. The Houston Cougars defender became a...
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lol "ecstatic"

that must have a different meaning than what it used to.

He is coming to 2-6 team, said nothing quoted about the coaches other than he hadn't talked to them. I hope he does very well, above even Coolie's expectations, but that headline word does not match the quotes or the situation.
 
He is out this week. Backs are tricky. I don't know how they are gonna get any real read on what this guy can do. I guess if the write a new contract where he comes to camp next year and is a no or really low cost cut. I will be shocked if this isn't anything but 3million in cap pissed down the drain.
 
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They knew he was injured. The move shouldn't cost them much but they shouldn't have made the move. It was pointless. He missed 4 games before this one. There's no way he passed a physical unless they waved him through. Will he even play this year? To keep him, they'd have to get him to cut his salary at least in half. He isn't worth more than that.
 
I saw Tomlin interviewed on the Pat Macafree show last year. Tomlin told Pat that he was very interested in him, but the Colts snagged him. Then he told him that he was hoping to make a move for him after "he got old and had his skills had dip a bit", and then bring him in. Pat retired rather than try to get a deal somewhere.

That keeps echoing in my ears when I think about the Jackson III move.
 
over the years the Steelers have not been good at identifying CB talent in the draft. might as well spend a late draft pick 3 years in the future on a guy that might help now
 
TDX27 said:
They knew he was injured. The move shouldn't cost them much but they shouldn't have made the move. It was pointless. He missed 4 games before this one. There's no way he passed a physical unless they waved him through. Will he even play this year? To keep him, they'd have to get him to cut his salary at least in half. He isn't worth more than that.
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That's about it, a pointless move.

Also, Minkah is probably out.

 
No way Jackson passed a physical during the trade. Now we put him on IR. Doesn't make any sense at all.
 
I hadn't heard about IR. No way he could have passed a physical. Just cut him now. The season will be over by the time he gets back and ready to play. No way we should pay his salary next year. Dumb, dumb, dumb move!
 
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