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First-pick.com - It's Mock Draft time again...

slashsteel said:
One reason RB is such a popular want besides Conners lack of health is the Oline starting to show its age. Although I prefer a G or T in free agency it isn't out of the question for the BPA to be T in this T heavy draft. But in all likelihood Ts usually go on runs early in the draft. Would still be no shocker if the BPA is a WR or RB. If it plays out like that I could see a RB coming off the board in 2.

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Agree........ without us owning a 1st rounder this year we will miss out on the T crop of note. G/C have some possibilities if they drop to mid 2nd..
There are some RB in FA but who wants to spend on that...... Derrick Henry and Melvin Gordon want to get paid ..... but I think the market has soured on 14 million RBs

I like Conner but like you said he is not much help to us on the sideline......... getting a RB in the 2nd with potential 1st round grade has to be considered especially if they are the workhorse type of back.
 
Paul G said:
Agree........ without us owning a 1st rounder this year we will miss out on the T crop of note. G/C have some possibilities if they drop to mid 2nd..
There are some RB in FA but who wants to spend on that...... Derrick Henry and Melvin Gordon want to get paid ..... but I think the market has soured on 14 million RBs

I like Conner but like you said he is not much help to us on the sideline......... getting a RB in the 2nd with potential 1st round grade has to be considered especially if they are the workhorse type of back.
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Paul I agree with what you are saying but part of what is driving the RB contract up is how long they are held on their rookie contract. I had read (somewhere) that the CBA was trying to address the RB rookie to be a two year rookie contract (NO option year) and then open up TO THE MARKET. Because the RB life span in the NFL is so short a lot of RBs are finding the scrap heap after the rookie contract is up.

BELL is a great example as he will NOT duplicate his best season here. Him and others have aged out before they can get open market value thus creating the high $$$$ by them.


ALSO........ I think contrary to the NFL,..... The CBA is further apart than what is led to believe.


EDIT: The NFLPA is only giving the players bits of the proposed contract but also telling them the full contract will be delivered with plenty of time for them to read it. AS a player being represented by the NFLPA I'd be contacting my team rep and vohemantly demanding to see the contract in its entirety. It seems to me the current process favors the NFL which is contradictory to the NFLPA. AFTER ALL, in Buisness negotiation knowledge is power and I'd think the players deserve the knowledge so that can discuss amongst themselves with ample time instead of just a few days / week before the vote.

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Paul I agree with what you are saying but part of what is driving the RB contract up is how long they are held on their rookie contract. I had read (somewhere) that the CBA was trying to address the RB rookie to be a two year rookie contract (NO option year) and then open up TO THE MARKET. Because the RB life span in the NFL is so short a lot of RBs are finding the scrap heap after the rookie contract is up.

BELL is a great example as he will NOT duplicate his best season here. Him and others have aged out before they can get open market value thus creating the high $$$$ by them.


ALSO........ I think contrary to the NFL,..... The CBA is further apart than what is led to believe.


EDIT: The NFLPA is only giving the players bits of the proposed contract but also telling them the full contract will be delivered with plenty of time for them to read it. AS a player being represented by the NFLPA I'd be contacting my team rep and vohemantly demanding to see the contract in its entirety. It seems to me the current process favors the NFL which is contradictory to the NFLPA. AFTER ALL, in Buisness negotiation knowledge is power and I'd think the players deserve the knowledge so that can discuss amongst themselves with ample time instead of just a few days / week before the vote.

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The situation is a mess for the RB position. Like you said the shelf life for a RB is limited. I think teams will start drafting a stud, use them for 4-5 years, possibly tag for one more year if they are exceptional then dump before the 2nd contract. Guys like L Bell provide proof that in this league personal skill is not enough to maintain success. Alot depends on scheme and the talent surrounding them. If Derrick Henry leaves the Titans, I don't think he will enjoy as much success because few teams are as committed to the run as the Titans and if you fall behind on the scoreboard the run game gets abandoned most of the time. I am not sure that shortening a RB contract to 2 years will help the overall group obtain 2nd contracts. Sure some may benefit but what happens to a guy like D. Guice who sustains injuries early on. I would rather be in the league for 4 years than risk being tossed aside after 2 years. Most of these ding dongs blow their load of cash on extravagant things as soon as they sign a contract. Imagine how many more sad stories will pop up about bankruptcy or riches to rags. I think I would rather they guarantee 75% of a rookie contract so they know they have at least a few years of stability or come up with a program to help athletes that fail early return to school to achieve a degree. Afterall it is the NFL that draws them out of school early depriving them of a paid education in return for a shot at big money before their body sustains too much wear and tear. Look at Jonathon Taylor... lots of mileage.... does it drop his draft stock thus depriving him of money on his initial contract. I think it does from many team's perspective.

No perfect way to solve this......
 
Unrealistic draft with trades


Your Picks:
Round 3 Pick 6 (MIA): Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 15 (NYJ): Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame (A)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Darrell Taylor, DE/OLB, Tennessee (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Michael Onwenu, OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 39 (MIA): Leki Fotu, DT, Utah (A)
Round 5 Pick 7 (MIA): Gage Cervenka, C, Clemson (A+)
Round 6 Pick 19: Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A)
Round 7 Pick 18: Joseph Charlton, P, South Carolina (A+)


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FordFairLane said:
Unrealistic draft with trades


Your Picks:
Round 3 Pick 6 (MIA): Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 15 (NYJ): Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame (A)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14 (NYJ): AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Darrell Taylor, DE/OLB, Tennessee (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Michael Onwenu, OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 39 (MIA): Leki Fotu, DT, Utah (A)
Round 5 Pick 7 (MIA): Gage Cervenka, C, Clemson (A+)
Round 6 Pick 19: Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A)
Round 7 Pick 18: Joseph Charlton, P, South Carolina (A+)


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Yeah in what I deem a poor TE class , KMET likely being one of the top prospects at the position has little chance of dropping to the 3rd round. Someone will nab him probably before the Steelers natural slot in the 2nd round. I think dropping back a very small amount in the 2nd to obtain an early 3 rd pick is acceptable but I am happy with the Steelers obtaining up to as many as 8 drafts selections max.
You have to be pretty confident to trade back more than 2 positions at any one time because you risk allowing other teams to join the mix the longer they have to arrange a trade deal.
 
Paul G said:
Yeah in what I deem a poor TE class , KMET likely being one of the top prospects at the position has little chance of dropping to the 3rd round. Someone will nab him probably before the Steelers natural slot in the 2nd round. I think dropping back a very small amount in the 2nd to obtain an early 3 rd pick is acceptable but I am happy with the Steelers obtaining up to as many as 8 drafts selections max.
You have to be pretty confident to trade back more than 2 positions at any one time because you risk allowing other teams to join the mix the longer they have to arrange a trade deal.
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I agree Kmet likely gets overdrafted because of the lack of talent at the position this year. I feel in any draft he’s a solid 2nd/3rd round pick but he likely goes early Second because of the lack of talent. The draft network has the most realistic mock draft site imo but they don’t have our comp pick yet. Probably because they don’t want to project a 3rd if we end up with a 4th.


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FordFairLane said:
I agree Kmet likely gets overdrafted because of the lack of talent at the position this year. I feel in any draft he’s a solid 2nd/3rd round pick but he likely goes early Second because of the lack of talent. The draft network has the most realistic mock draft site imo but they don’t have our comp pick yet. Probably because they don’t want to project a 3rd if we end up with a 4th.


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I use firstpick but their grading is off..... can you please send me the link for the site you mentioned above......so I can check it out...... thanks
 
Just starting to do research. Hoping we get good comp pick(s) this year. A lot off buzz about skill positions but I think we need to start thinking about the oline.

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 17: Lloyd Cushenberry III, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Leki Fotu, DT, Utah (A)
Round 6 Pick 19: Alohi Gilman, FS/SS, Notre Dame (A)
Round 7 Pick 18: Justin Herron, OT, Wake Forest (A)
 
Round 2 Pick 17: Lloyd Cushenberry III, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Robert Hunt, OT, UL-Lafayette (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 19: Corey Bethley, DT, TCU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 29 (TENN): Tipa Galeai, DE/OLB, Utah State (A)
Round 7 Pick 32 (MIA): Patrick Taylor Jr, RB, Memphis (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (MIA): Kenny Robinson, FS/SS, West Virginia (A)
 
steelerscotty said:
Round 2 Pick 17: Lloyd Cushenberry III, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Robert Hunt, OT, UL-Lafayette (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 19: Corey Bethley, DT, TCU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 29 (TENN): Tipa Galeai, DE/OLB, Utah State (A)
Round 7 Pick 32 (MIA): Patrick Taylor Jr, RB, Memphis (A+)
Round 7 Pick 37 (MIA): Kenny Robinson, FS/SS, West Virginia (A)
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Isn't cush'n'berries the name of a weed strain?

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slashsteel said:
I am with you pretty much with your thinking. Although I do like Dobbins.. The O-line did well sure, but he did face some solid competition and was productive. Game film I saw of him I came away very impressed.

I think he is going to be a very solid NFL player...
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Dobbins is physically talented but so was Carlos Hyde. Dobbins gets to run through lots of big holes and Fields is such a run threat that it makes it even easier on the RPO. He's fast and strong and will probably be a good player but I'm not sure he's special. I don't think he could be great on a bad team.

Taylor has great vision and can be productive even if the OL is not great.

Swift will be a factor in the passing game. He will at least be Kamara and could be McCaffrey as a guy who can run inside and be a receiver.

I doubt that Dobbins, Swift or Taylor will be available when the steelers pick and even if they are, I'm not sure they draft a RB. I think they'd be more likely to draft a WR if they go for a skill player.

TE is a big need and they've ignored it for years but this isn't a great class. I'm not sure thare a guy worth a 2nd round pick.

They screwed up big time taking Snell over Foster Moreau last year.
 
49


Lloyd Cushenberry III

, IOL
102


Chase Claypool

, WR
124


Albert Okwuegbunam

, TE
135


A.J. Dillon

, RB
198


Mykal Walker

, LB
232


Robert Windsor

, IDL


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Unrealistic first pick


Round 2 Pick 19 (DAL): Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 18 (DAL): Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri (A+)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: McTelvin Agim, DT, Arkansas (C+)
Round 6 Pick 19: Joe Gaziano, DE/OLB, Northwestern (A+)
Round 7 Pick 24 (NYG): K'Von Wallace, FS/SS, Clemson (A)
Round 7 Pick 28 (G.B.): Khaleke Hudson, OLB, Michigan (A+)
Round 7 Pick 35 (MINN): Joseph Charlton, P, South Carolina (A+)


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unrealtic with trading the rnd 2 and these players still on the board
Round 3 Pick 6 (MIA): Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin (A+) how
Round 3 Pick 23 (N.E.): Anfernee Jennings, OLB/DE, Alabama (A+) excellent addition to instantly replace chickello
Round 3 Pick 36 (N.E.): Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State (A+) offers short term LG and has potential to with his size and athlethic ability to play LT similar to Bakthari and TJ lang
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A+) here its a bonus to have a randl el like gadget player helps move the chains and when his value peeks assuming mason is developing to you sell him high
Round 4 Pick 20 (LAR): Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan (A+) once again dont know how a guy similar to ju ju falls this low a team player that can contribute run blocking drawing doubles be a real threat in the redzone
Round 4 Pick 29: Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford (A+) large tarhet with the frame to add more mass T 6"7 CAN BE USED in the red zone like grahem gronk flank out and throw fade.
Round 6 Pick 19: Colton Prater, OG, Texas A&M (B) depth player
Round 6 Pick 20 (LAR): Khaleke Hudson, OLB, Michigan (A+) fast explosive replaced bush could be used in a variety of ways
Round 7 Pick 18: Benito Jones, DT, Mississippi (A+) exact type of NT body we need
 
No trades...based on today's moves:

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 17: Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 38 (COMP): Leki Fotu, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Zack Moss, RB, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29: Jon Runyan, OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 19: Stephen Sullivan, TE, LSU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 18: TJ Brunson, OLB, South Carolina (A+)
 
49: R2P17 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR
WISCONSIN
Kind of a luxury pick but we need a workhorse back and Taylor has been that with Wisconsin.

102: R3P38 G DAMIEN LEWIS LSU
Feiler probably kicks inside but we are very thin without Foster or Finney. Lewis can backup both OG and OC and eventually replace Pouncey.

124: R4P18 TE ALBERT OKWUEGBUNAM MISSOURI
Get lucky that a TE is still around that fits our needs. Can learn behind McDonald and fight it out with Gentry for playing time.

135: R4P29 S JEREMY CHINN
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
Freak of nature athlete who has been a ballhawk in college. Might give Edmunds some competition.

198: R6P19 EDGE ALEX HIGHSMITH CHARLOTTE
Gives Ola and Skipper some competition at OLB.

232: R7P18 DL BENITO JONES
MISSISSIPPI
Should compete with McCullers for our plug in the middle.


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