Agreed...but that other team has a special player under center,,,
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I wouldn't have called it under the circumstances, but it was a check. They prepped for it and apparently had free ability to check to it. It was great preparation and the play was right there for a big first down. Sometimes the players just need to execute.
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this.
42 tried to lose the game for Steelers today.
Its Trice Time!
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What about Warren?
Is Pierre known to have sticky hands or is he known to be a marginal player at best?
That goes in line with putting your players in the best position to succeed.
He isn’t who I would have pimped for that play.
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the NFL official commentating opined that the play should have been whistled for forward progress, but it wasn't. Warren was all effort and got held up by several Commandos before the ball came out a split second before he was down. in hindsight, yeah, both arms around the ball. But he was making an effort play with the ball.What about Warren?
Pierre was the opposite. He dropped the ST play (why is he on the team?), missed a couple tackles and on the one play he was involved in that was "good" for the Steelers, the refs missed calling him for PI as Sask pointed out above.
No comparison in my book.
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I have been hugely critical of Tomlin for years, and am still pissed to see Najee continually run into the 8/9 man fronts on first down. I am still worried about winning only 2/3 more games this season then getting another embarrassing PO shellacking. (Tomlinship)
But this call today, even with the headscratching drop by Pierre, was very different than any other Tomlin call in many years. The bombs downfield (wtf were the long ones to Austin and Jefferson for with Pickens and Williams available?) , the move away from Jet sweeps and bubble screens where WRs dint block is welcome.
I'd much rather the Steelers win, but if they are gonna lose, I'd rather go down knowing they tried unconventional methods to win. Losing doing all the same **** like the past 3 seasons truly sucks.
But this call today, even with the headscratching drop by Pierre, was very different than any other Tomlin call in many years. The bombs downfield (wtf were the long ones to Austin and Jefferson for with Pickens and Williams available?) , the move away from Jet sweeps and bubble screens where WRs dint block is welcome.
I'd much rather the Steelers win, but if they are gonna lose, I'd rather go down knowing they tried unconventional methods to win. Losing doing all the same **** like the past 3 seasons truly sucks.
Difference is you have an ex- head coach that is allowed to be the OC without too much interference. Mike should camp out with the secondary and DC for they seem to be the middling of the team. Like refusing to double difference makers .
Pierre broke up the second to last play to end the game...
Got lucky....ball underthrown..Borderline P.I.
Agree 100% with @warriors42. Danny Smith saw a defect in Washington's punt coverage, leaving a gunner wide open. Take advantage when it's there.
"Why not run it when the ball is at midfield?" Probably because Washington abandons coverage on the gunner only when the opposition is punting from inside their own 30?
The play would have been huge. Pierre gets the 1st down for sure and is one broken tackle away from making the game 14-0. Absolutely support the call. Danny Smith's special teams have been superb this season. If Pierre can catch the ball instead of having it doink off his hands, it would have been another outstanding play by the squad.
"Why not run it when the ball is at midfield?" Probably because Washington abandons coverage on the gunner only when the opposition is punting from inside their own 30?
The play would have been huge. Pierre gets the 1st down for sure and is one broken tackle away from making the game 14-0. Absolutely support the call. Danny Smith's special teams have been superb this season. If Pierre can catch the ball instead of having it doink off his hands, it would have been another outstanding play by the squad.
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Let's try that **** with Buffalo and KC. **** around and find out.
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Well I was just fun'n around about Warren anyways. Dude does look healthy. Running hard. A good thing.
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the PI play that dint get called
Yeah, but I think we can also add the obvious and brutal hold not called on Washington on the 48-yard field goal. Maybe the guy kicks a 58-yarder, but more likely Washington just punts in that spot. Washington gets 3 points out of that.
Or the failure to call a safety when Watt was blatantly held in the Commanders' end zone. That's 2 points and good field position gone.
I think the lack of calls on actual scoring plays are more important than non-calls on what might have been a scoring drive several plays later if things fall into place.
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Totally agree, should have been skownorek (sp?) catching that pass
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I’ll gladly take a conversion on 4th and long against either of those teams.
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I hated doing it deep in your own end,but you guys have made it grow on me a little.
It certainly wasn't chicken ****.
They still won. I'm good.
It certainly wasn't chicken ****.
They still won. I'm good.
But got away with PI.
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That play is not a question of fear or no fear. It was a question of necessity. There was no reason to call it..none. It was not smart at all.
There is a guy on here who called me a soppy va jay jay for saying that in the game thread LOL. I am not a Tomlin hater, not a fan either I have given him credit this season for making some bold non status quo moves...don't agree with what he did there. Handed them 6 points that made the difference in the game being close and could have cost us the game.
And for those still wondering: Tomlin owned the call in the post game P.C. and said he would do it again....LOL. I knew they would never normally do that no matter what the read is.
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After giving this play some thought I've come up with this. I'm fairly conservative when it comes to football. I like having strong line play that sets the tone. I like running the ball and controlling the game etc. But you can't live and die with this.
I also can't stand all these coaches that continually run with analytics. I think that also becomes too predictable and bites you in the butt at the least opportune time.
All that said it may be a blessing to say we tried the fake punt yesterday and having it fail. I like the idea that Tomlin will attempt such things. It shows the players he has confidence in them to a) make the play, b) the defense to bail them out if they don't and c) the team to win the game if it all fails. That's what happened yesterday.
I'm also okay with the fact that the play was tried and failed. It will keep the opposition on their toes. But at the same time the play failing will also keep us from being one of those teams that continually tries these crazy things all the time. Like I said, I still lean towards conservative, old fashioned smash mouth football at the end of the day.
I also can't stand all these coaches that continually run with analytics. I think that also becomes too predictable and bites you in the butt at the least opportune time.
All that said it may be a blessing to say we tried the fake punt yesterday and having it fail. I like the idea that Tomlin will attempt such things. It shows the players he has confidence in them to a) make the play, b) the defense to bail them out if they don't and c) the team to win the game if it all fails. That's what happened yesterday.
I'm also okay with the fact that the play was tried and failed. It will keep the opposition on their toes. But at the same time the play failing will also keep us from being one of those teams that continually tries these crazy things all the time. Like I said, I still lean towards conservative, old fashioned smash mouth football at the end of the day.
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